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    Question Firefighter Down

    Looking for some input/suggestions from the other FF's out there regarding the best way to physically carry/drag a downed firefighter out of a building. By the SCBA straps? Under the shoulders? By the coat? Just wanted to see whats has worked best for people out there.
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    Just did a drill on this this morning, We used a heavy dummy, but the easiest i found was a strap over the chest and under the arms, i used that to drag out backwards.
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    well a very quick and easy way is to turn the scba into a harness. Take the waist strap and put it between the FF's legs then tie knots in the should straps and start pulling. There are a bunch of ways to remove FF's and it all depends on the situation but I try to stay away from the fancy stuff. Just get the guy out as quick and easy as possible.. Bottom Line!

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    Try this one:

    It is designed for a two man carry;

    The person at the head will loosen the shoulder harness straps just a little bit and use them as a lift point, and the other partner will take the feet.

    The second partner will reach as far up both pant legs of the downed firefighter, and then make a fist, and on command both of you will lift.

    You will see that itís very easy doing this and really focuses more energy on the upper arms then on your grip.

    This takes a couple of seconds, but you will see it works very well. This is of course the conditions will let you carry him/her out.


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    Originally posted by firefiftyfive
    well a very quick and easy way is to turn the scba into a harness. Take the waist strap and put it between the FF's legs
    We've found that for a bigger firefighter this will not work because the waist strap is too short. I carry a piece of webbing, run it between or around one leg and tie each end to the waist strap.

    Uncharged: The idea of this is to prevent pulling the SCBA off the firefighter while dragging him/her by the shoulder straps. The SCBA bottle will slide pretty well on most surfaces.
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    The surrounding conditions would certainly dictate whether or not you could carry a downed firefighter out. You may not be able to stand and therefore would be forced to drag the person out. A drag strap makes it easier. Either around the chest and under the arms or making the SCBA into a harness works. It is very helpful if another firefighter is available to assist and that person can put the downed firefighters legs over his shoulders and push while you are pulling. Going up stairs is very difficult and lifting someone out a window can be tough. We have drilled on the "Denver Drill" for removal out a high window and we have also drilled on the use of a folding ladder to get a firefighter out of a basement/cellar window. If you are able you enlarge the window opening, give the inside rescuers a folding ladder, that will be used essentially as a backboard, and a rope. The rescuers roll the firefighter on the ladder and tie the firefighter down making it so that the guy can't roll off the ladder while at the same time the other end of the rope can be passed out the window and used for lifting. The two rescuers then get on each side of the ladder and assist the lift. Don't forget to take an extra SCBA with you!

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    Uncharged,
    Log into www.rapidintervention.com - just about every RIT question out there has been dealt with on this site instead of recreating the wheel you may find your answer already posted along with other assitance...
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