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    Question Cheater Bar?

    Has anyone else heard of or used a cheater bar on their mask. Someone told me a few days ago that he uses one occasionally. It seemed like an interesting thing but I think safety officers would really frown on it? What do you guys think?


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    Default Re: Cheater Bar?

    Originally posted by firefiftyfive
    Has anyone else heard of or used a cheater bar on their mask. Someone told me a few days ago that he uses one occasionally. It seemed like an interesting thing but I think safety officers would really frown on it? What do you guys think?
    Cheater bar on your mask??????????

    Either I'm really dumb......... or I'm just confused.........

    Never heard of it........

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    Hmmmm, good point
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    I take it that is used if you don't have your mask held on with the webbing/straps?????????

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    Thumbs down Do What?.......

    I've never heard of this one, I always thought a "Cheater Bar' was a favorite watering hole of those who were looking for a little extramarital activity. Back to the point, If you ever even thought of trying something like this, you need to be doing something else in life. Your mask is held in place with the appropriate straps, any other neat little tricks are OSHA violations, potentially suicidal, and, IMHO, stupid. And, 55, I understand, you didn't do this, and my attitude is NOT directed at you, and I'm sorry if it came off that way. Stay Safe....
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    This is definately a new for me. It sounds like I should be glad I've never heard of it.

    I'm with the group on this one. It seems pretty dumb to me.
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    Not that I would ever THINK of using one of these devices,or any of the other countless varieties that have been around for years and years ( i have been told ). I would never ever ever think to discuss such an illegal and dangerous ( lol )thing on a nationally read bulletin board.

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    ps how are you artie, some day we shall meet. but jeez what are these younguns thinking.

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    Im with you Bob....No comment

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    Sounds deadly. What exactly is it? Having a hard time picturing it in my head.
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    I always thought a cheater bar was the 12 foot section of pipe you used on the big wrench to get extra leverage when 'breaking' loose the lug nuts on the pump...
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    LOL me too, jay.
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    Cant a cheater bar also be a pipe that you use to add leverage to a come along?

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    Originally posted by Jay911
    I always thought a cheater bar was the 12 foot section of pipe you used on the big wrench to get extra leverage when 'breaking' loose the lug nuts on the pump...
    That's exactly what I was thinking when I first read this. That's why I was so confused!!!

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    Hey guys thanks for the replies but let me just clear two things up. First of all I have never used this piece of equipment and don't plan on it. I also made a serious typo in my original quote. The guy who I was talking to used to use it, he does not currently use it.

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    Lightbulb Ancient History.................

    Many, Many Moons ago, some guys in the D.C. area tried the SCUBA mouthpiece thing, but it just didn't cut it. Capt Stan might remember, it was on his side of the river...... And yes, a long piece of pipe will bust your nuts loose..... Stay safe....
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    WOW >...............I have used a cheater bar to get leverage on a hydrant..........but on my mask ?> OMG !
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    Thumbs down Not worth it......

    Many years ago I tried both styles of cheaters in training. I found them to be more of a problem then a help. Anybody thinking about using them should just forget about it. The dangers outweigh their minimal usefulness.

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    As someone said earlier, the only two things I know of that are cheater bars are: your favorite place to drink and a piece of pipe used on a wrench to gain leverage. We do have cheater bars for our Hydrants.

    Many, Many Moons ago, some guys in the D.C. area tried the SCUBA mouthpiece thing, but it just didn't cut it. Capt Stan might remember, it was on his side of the river......
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    This won't keep dirt out fo your eyes when pulling ceilings,and how about having to sneeze while using it.You would also have to have strong teeth,I'm told. Stick to the piece of pipe
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    Has anyone ever seen a sign that says: CHEATER BAR SOLD SEPARATELY?
    No? Then there must be a reason for it. Wrenches are designed to give at certain force. It's all about having the right tool for the right job. Yeah; I've had to use one to bust a hydrant loose.
    But I also know that a cheater bar accident is about to cost my company about $230,000 for an injury.
    Wearing a respirator that is not designed for the atmosphere that you are entering is not only foolish, but very illegal.
    We wear canister respirators for field fires. SCBAs for just about everything else.
    I remember a time when departments were taking the waist belt off of their SCBAs and just going with the shoulder straps. Don't even hear of that anymore.
    Wear them according the manufacturer's specifications.
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