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    Default What is a typical duty of a firefighter?

    A.putting the safety of a victim above own safety

    B.assuming responsbility for victims who cannot be saved

    C.taking risks to preserve property

    D.performing salvage operations
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    Go away and think about those questions.

    The only one that fits my job description anywhere is the last one.

    Or is this leading up to something like a question?
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    I am just asking a few questions! Seeing what answer you think is right.
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    Default Re: What is a typical duty of a firefighter?

    Originally posted by backdraft663
    A.putting the safety of a victim above own safety

    B.assuming responsbility for victims who cannot be saved

    C.taking risks to preserve property

    D.performing salvage operations
    ANSWERS:

    A: NEVER......... the safety of my Brothers and myself comes before the safety of anyone or anything ........ if we go down we are of no use to anyone and have created a bigger problem out of the existing one.

    B: If this is a situation where you have more than one victim, the ones who are NOT viable do not recieve treatment. Furthermore, I don't know of anyone who will put their lives/wellbeing in jeopardy for someone who CANNOT be saved.

    C: NEVER take unnecessary risk to save property............ is a piece of property, a THING, a possession more valuable than a HUMAN LIFE??

    D: This IS something we as firefighters/rescue personnel do.

    I'm sitting here wondering why you would even post a question such as this. I know that I've seen your name around long enough so I'm sure you know these answers. So what up?????
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    Just shaking my head at another thread to no where.

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    Originally posted by backdraft663
    I am just asking a few questions! Seeing what answer you think is right.
    You CANNOT honestly think that ANYONE would AGREE with the first three choices
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    I was about to give this a big ole HUH myself.......

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    Default Re: What is a typical duty of a firefighter?

    Originally posted by backdraft663
    A.putting the safety of a victim above own safety

    B.assuming responsbility for victims who cannot be saved

    C.taking risks to preserve property

    D.performing salvage operations
    Backdraft, I think this is a very odd question as well. But I think the answer is both C and D.

    Of course it is a typical duty of firefighters to perform salvage operations. I think every fireman reading this right now knows that.

    No one on here so far believes C is correct, but I do. Every time a crew goes into a structure fire, it is a risk. It is not a guarantee that they will come back out. Has any of you gone inside to fight a structure fire that had no occupants in it? You did so to preserve their property. The purpose is to save their home. And it is a very typical thing. Maybe Backdraft meant doing some really dumb, outrageous things to save property, I don't know. But we always take risks.

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    If you havent noticed this is a question from the essentials workbook. I found this to an odd question. I kinda agree with jeff with what he says.
    I guess I made an *** out of myself again!
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    Default Typical duty...

    Several ideas come to mind...

    #1. Make sure the recliner works. (Immediately go to
    #2!!)

    #2. Make sure TV remote control works.

    #3. Make sure plenty of food in fridge.

    #4. If not, go to store, talk to babes in
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    #5. Sleep.

    #6. Repeat all over again.

    Seriously- The best way to find the FF duties would
    be to look at a job flyer.
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    Hey back off backdraft--he asked questions......he wasnt forceing you to answer them.
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    Originally posted by stm4710
    Hey back off backdraft--he asked questions......he wasnt forceing you to answer them.
    Back off of what?
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    No Ryan,I didnt mean you. I was addressing those that dont like threads or say "you should have known better than to ask that", then post in the thread that they dont like the thread and keep bringing it up.
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    To everyone picking on the kid, the question that he posed was a similar question on my very first promotional exam fifteen years ago....
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    No one on here so far believes C is correct, but I do. Every time a crew goes into a structure fire, it is a risk. It is not a guarantee that they will come back out. Has any of you gone inside to fight a structure fire that had no occupants in it? You did so to preserve their property. The purpose is to save their home. And it is a very typical thing. Maybe Backdraft meant doing some really dumb, outrageous things to save property, I don't know. But we always take risks.
    That's just what I was thinking about "C". That's a pretty fundamental function of the fire dept... at grass roots level. Isn't that why we have hose and water etc... to save property? At the very least to minimize the loss. When you enter a burning home/building and extinguish the fire, you have just taken a risk, and like it or not folks, 99% of the time you did it to protect/preserve property. I know we all would prefer to save a life vs. property, but in my 14 years in the fire service I can only remember pulling out 2 unconscious victims... one died and another lived, though severly burned. If we do anything more often at a structure fire, it's save property... and we do it while risking our own saftey... if that does not sit well with you, maybe you need to change jobs.
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    Default Re: What is a typical duty of a firefighter?

    Originally posted by backdraft663
    A.putting the safety of a victim above own safety

    B.assuming responsbility for victims who cannot be saved

    C.taking risks to preserve property

    D.performing salvage operations

    A. The victims are already unsafe. We have to measure the risk to our firefighters against the probability of rescuing that victim without unneeded or certain injury to our firefighters. More victims isn't putting anybody's safety first.

    B. A victim that cannot be saved isn't anybody's responsibility. It is an unfortunate circumstance in which we cannot control.

    C. Every time we fight fire to protect property there are risks. Unneccessary risks for something that is replacable is were you have to draw the line.

    D. Salvage operation is a part of any firefighting operation.

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    I guess I was reading C as taking an unnecessary risk to save property. Since saving property (second only to lives) is what we do, I thought the question meant something different.
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    A.putting the safety of a victim above own safety

    B.assuming responsbility for victims who cannot be saved

    C.taking risks to preserve property

    D.performing salvage operations


    I think that all of these questions can be answered with a YES amd a NO. And they have an inverse relationship between the two meaning
    questions would be answered something like:

    A. = No 99% yes 1%
    B. = No 90 yes 10%
    C. = No 30% yes 70%
    D. = No 10% yes 90%

    these percentages are made up, but that is how it might look for me.
    Question A. There is 99% chance I would hardly ever place a victim over my own safety or being hurt, but there are a view instances i can think of where i would. For example if i was VES and i felt a victim at the window but flame was lapping out of the top window, there is a calculated chance i can get in and out in time, or there is a chance i might get burned alil bit too. But i would be at the window sill and could dive back out if needed. I would do it and it would be risking my safety for a victim. Or an esier one to say yes to would be if you were helping someone out of a building and a wall collapsed, are you just going to ditch your patient and run? or will you cover them with your body? If you protect them you will be putting their safety over your own. That situation or one like it will prob never happen or at the most 1% of my calls in my career, but it could happen.

    Queston B has already been answered yes, when you have to choose to leave someone in a building and go for someone else more viable

    Question C. has been answered also, we take risks saving property whenever we enter a building. Alot of the people that have fires in my city dont have insurance, so its a risk i am willing to make

    Question D. I would answer no sometimes due to lack of manpower. We dont have enough men to do salvage and do the other needed duties on a fire. So this question can be answered no also.

    So In my opinion given certain situations all of the questions can be answered with a Yes or a No.
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    Default Re: What is a typical duty of a firefighter?

    Originally posted by backdraft663
    A.putting the safety of a victim above own safety

    B.assuming responsbility for victims who cannot be saved

    C.taking risks to preserve property

    D.performing salvage operations
    A...not a duty

    B...not a duty

    C...not a duty

    D...a duty......This is the only answer that fits the question.

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