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    Any body ever seen a flashlight like the one displayed? Were they ever used by fire depts much? think they were 12v dry cells or maybe 6v. The battery was big and made most of the assembly. The red light flashed I think. Main light was a sealed beam. Are they still made or can you get the batterys for them?
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    I think my grandfather had one of those when I was growing up. As I remember, it had two 6-volt lantern batteries and the back light did flash. He carried it in his van for camping and roadside emergencies.

    Not sure if this type ever saw fire service use, but wouldn't surprise me
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    Looks like a Wheat Light........ I'll see if I can find a pic........ we still have some..........

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    OK, not the same one, but similar. I never noticed the light on the back of yours......
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    77, yours is a Wheat light - it's got a rechargable battery that you have to keep the water/acid topped off, right?

    That other thing we used to call a Commando Light (I have no idea why - that's what the old-timers called it 16 years ago). They had a dry cell battery - don't remember the voltage - but the battery terminals were used to screw the light assembly to the top of the battery by means of two black plasic nuts. We had some of them and some Wheat lights when I got hired, and I always guessed that because they were rechargable, the Wheat lights won out.
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    Originally posted by EdShanks
    77, yours is a Wheat light - it's got a rechargable battery that you have to keep the water/acid topped off, right?

    That other thing we used to call a Commando Light (I have no idea why - that's what the old-timers called it 16 years ago). They had a dry cell battery - don't remember the voltage - but the battery terminals were used to screw the light assembly to the top of the battery by means of two black plasic nuts. We had some of them and some Wheat lights when I got hired, and I always guessed that because they were rechargable, the Wheat lights won out.
    Yep. Ours is the Wheat Light. Still have some at the station and on a couple of the rigs. One Capt. has always been attached to them. He just found out the other night that we are getting rid of them for good............. Never seen the Commando light before..........

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    My dept actually had a few of these lights. We found them buried in one of the compartments of a truck we were replacing, when we were taking everything out to put in the new truck. They were the exact same lights you had in the drawing. They ran on 2 6 volt "lantern" style batts. According to the members that have been on the dept since we got the old truck in 1980, they were new then. We tossed them because they were in such disrepair, Heavy things, definately couldn't see lugging one of those around in a fire.
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    That there is pretty little thing, like to add one to the engine!!

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    used to have one as a kid ............the handle would lift up and was red an blinked ..............what was the name of them .........grrrrrrrrrrr
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    Originally posted by Fire40man
    That there is pretty little thing, like to add one to the engine!!
    How about the ambulance.. or the mini-pumper.........

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    Flip the battery around and you'll see 2 slots to run your belt through....coal miners wore the battery there and ran the wire and light up to their hard hat. They never look each other eye to eye when talking either!

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    Originally posted by R1SAlum
    Flip the battery around and you'll see 2 slots to run your belt through....coal miners wore the battery there and ran the wire and light up to their hard hat. They never look each other eye to eye when talking either!
    That's what I'll do............ I'll make up my own little Go-Go-Gadget Belt with one of these on there!!!!!!!!!

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    My old dept had one of those. (Not the wheat light) It was yellow and had Civil Defence markings one the side of it. It was still in mint condition too... never used.
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    The light you have described was found on all of our equipment when I first started in 1969. Those were the days before the plastic cases and rechargable lights.
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    77, yours is a Wheat light - it's got a rechargable battery that you have to keep the water/acid topped off, right?

    QUOTE]Originally posted by firenresq77


    Yep. Ours is the Wheat Light. Still have some at the station and on a couple of the rigs. One Capt. has always been attached to them. He just found out the other night that we are getting rid of them for good............. Never seen the Commando light before..........
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    wow 20 yrs is a long time. remember those thingys real well!! we still have about 12 of those in storage room, 77 what r u guys gonna do with them?
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    Originally posted by hotboy


    wow 20 yrs is a long time. remember those thingys real well!! we still have about 12 of those in storage room, 77 what r u guys gonna do with them?
    Probably going into the city's auction..........

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    Are you gonna give one of those to Captain Red ? I mean if you had them for 20 some years Capt. Red wasnt even in his PRIME yet ........
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    Thanks for all the replies. I did a little checking and I think that a company called "RayOvac" made this light. They also made these huge 6 or 7 "D" cell silver (chrome) lights that used be popular. They were so big they had a strap to carry them. They also made what I used to call the "Silver Bullet" flashlights that were 2 "D" cell units. My dad carried one in his truck. You sometimes had to shake it to make it work. I'm glad that flashlight tech has come a long way. Most of the older members remember these lights along with the old waterproof 6 volt lanterns, and the sealed beams mentioned in the post but what else was used? Was there any production firefighting light back in the 50s to 70s like today?
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    Confirmation that it's a model #303 made by RayOvac which was discontinued in 1986. As stated before since they no longer make metal the updated version is plastic but it still comes in at 18oz without the battery. I bet the old one was in the 3-5 pound range with the battery. Makes the Litebox seem like a feather.
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    Does anyone remember the old carpenter light? It was 6 volt, in a metal box with a big head light. The battery had to be taken out of the box and charged using the truck battery charger with clips on the terminals. These were good lights, but you couldn't angel them as the battery acid would come out throught the seal where the top was attached to the bottom. I had one wired into an old GMC/Pirsch hose wagon, 6 volt system, and we use it as a spot light. Didn't have a regular spot light on the officers side of the windshield.

    I still have on of the other types that was mounted on the running board and an old wheat light. I also have several old oil lanterns that were before the battery type lights!!!






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    So CaptOldTimer was the carpenter's light, wheat light and the 303 the LiteBox of their day?
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    Yes they was. At that time this was all that was available. As time went on, better portable lights came to be and the older lights were put away. If you see an old piece of apparatus with running boards, you may see where the old handlights were carried, if they haven't removed the mounting bracket. Go to a muster where old apparatus are there and look at the tools and equipment on them. You may find or see an old hand light or two. Someone may be selling some of them.

    These lights now being sold are the best and safest light you can buy. I happen to have a streamlight box and a survivor light that I am using now. They are good and they may be some as good or even better out there.

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    You may be able to find the light at Ebay. Just keep checking stuff there changes all the time. I saw the battery for sale recently at my local True Value Hardware store.
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