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    Default Out of mere curisosity...........

    in ball park numbers what is the cost between a tiller ladder and say an elevating platform ? either may be a quint .......
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    Getting a tiller for the new station? I just may have to move out there
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    SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !
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    ya but whats the cost ?
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    well if one of those shows up.............we may convert ya !
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    It is all according to your specs, would you have a pump on your Tiller like most Towers do, or are you going to have 1 with plenty of compartment space. If the specs are similar there is not a lot of difference.
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    Well, as I recall, Sutphen makes a tillered tower ladder. The "bucket" is part of the tillerman's position when driving adn upon arrival at the scene it becomes the platform. An interesting combination too. You can also spec a tiller with its own pump which isn't a bad idea either.
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    I recently checked the Sutphen website and I dontthink they make that any longer ................there was nary a word about it there.
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    The Sutphen tillered platform in question was a one of a kind rig. As I understand it, the CEO (Or other big wig of Sutphen) has is it in his personal collection in a warehouse somewhere.
    The Pierce tiller pictured in this forum was one of the 1st tillered aerials made by Pierce (All from the same order for Pittsburgh). These were problematic rigs to say the least. At the rear of the cab, up high, they installed marker lights for the tillerman to be able to see the movement and position of the tractor. This was necessary as the tillermans seat relative to the aerial, overall aerial size and total height of the combination all added up to greatly diminish visibility for the tillerman. Also the geography of Pittsburgh was not the best for these rigs as they were underpowered/improperly geared for the terrain. They were 1988 Dash tractors with 105' aerials made by Smeal. All of them (I think they ordered 3 at the time) were disposed of within 5 years or so. Any corrections are appreciated.

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    You are looking at about $800,000 or better for either.

    Pierce has an oustanding mid mount platform Quint . Roanoke City, VA Fire just bought one. Its big and has all the bells and whistles.

    Depends on what you want on it and what your department is willing to pay.

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    Pierce, 85', 2000gpm pump, 2 1000gpm guns in bucket, 800' 5", 800' 2 1/2", seating for 6, no all stear, no super suspension, ground ladder compliment, $890,000. Same thing with 100' $950,000.

    Just finished spec'ng this monster out and then find out we have at least a year wait before our town council can consider it.
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    "If you have to ask...you can't afford it!"

    The $800 to $900K range may be on the conservative side!

    Our 2001 E-One 110' rearmount aerial on the Hurricane chassis was $525,000.
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    Originally posted by CaptainGonzo
    "If you have to ask...you can't afford it!"

    The $800 to $900K range may be on the conservative side!

    Our 2001 E-One 110' rearmount aerial on the Hurricane chassis was $525,000.
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    Granted this was 3+ years ago, and prices rarely drop. But the price for the Pierce versions seems a little steep to me for what you're getting.
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    If I remember correctly, the City of Pittsburgh ordered 5 "Beasts of the East", they were huge with a ton of compartment space. A unique feature on them was the gooseneck on the trailer actually artilulated up and down to level out the turntable (Pittsburgh hills). Not too familiar with tillered rigs, but I think the trailers are usually solid frames. They actually sat in a warehouse for a couple years before the city tried to sell them.

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    2001 E-One Cyclone II 95' LT Quint, 500HP Series 60, Allison HD4060P, 2000GPM (Rated) Hale, 300GWT, 800' of 5", 2 crosslays, 1 front bumper trash line, 1500+ GPM waterway, 2-1000GPM platform monitors, 2-1250GPM stagger mounted deck guns, aluminum wheels, dual sirens, etc. for $700,000.00.

    PrestoC1, thanks for the correction. I think your right about the order quantity. 5 does sound right now. And they were/are HUGE rigs. Just compare the photos of them to other tillers and the differences are very obvious. Just some thoughts.

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