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    Default Pacific Kevlar Helmets

    Anyone use Pacific brand kevlar helmets? We are looking at these for purchase, but don't know much about them. Our last helmets were Chieftans and we were very disappointed! Bullard for myself.
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    Default Re: Pacific Kevlar Helmets

    Originally posted by arhaney
    Anyone use Pacific brand kevlar helmets? We are looking at these for purchase, but don't know much about them. Our last helmets were Chieftans and we were very disappointed! Bullard for myself.
    In a fire helmet, Kevlar does not add any real value. It is formed into the helmet in much the same way fiberglass is, bringing with it the form-holding capability and hidden weakness over time. As a result, Kevlar has similar trade-offs to fiberglass as compared to thermoplastics.
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    Must be a new company or one on the west coast. Phenix Technology is a good brand of helmets. We use these and have good luck with them. I think their web site is phenixfirehelmets.com

    Try that and see if you see something you like.

    Good Luck.


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    Originally posted by CaptOldTimer
    Must be a new company or one on the west coast. Phenix Technology is a good brand of helmets. We use these and have good luck with them. I think their web site is phenixfirehelmets.com
    Pacific Helmets is a New Zealand company.
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    Thats why I haven't heard of it here on the EAST Coast. Very little information on companies out side the US and that far from the East Side gets told.

    I would stay with US made my self. Your town, county or City may have a clause regarding buying anything that isn't US Made. My City does!

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    firemanjb, how does the blade system on the new LT series work? Looked on the web site and it really didn't explain very well. I've got the Kevlar helmet on hand now, I'll let you guys know what we think.............Thanks for the swift replies.
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    Default Go Phenix...

    Originally posted by CaptOldTimer
    Phenix Technology is a good brand of helmets. We use these and have good luck with them. I think their web site is www.phenixfirehelmets.com

    Try that and see if you see something you like.

    Good Luck.
    Like my best buddy OldTimer said, we like Phenix
    too. Light weight, very balance, not to heavy and
    sits low on the head. More non-West coast depts.
    are going to them. A FD in Idaho just bought some
    and a FD in Hawaii is switching too. And they are
    extreamly low maintenance and last a long time.

    Check out their updated action page-
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    We just went to phenix 1500s.

    Love the hell out of them!!!

    We are a Montana department that has structure, wildland, and the ever popular interface fire environments to work with.

    This is the one helmet we have found that can do ALL of the above.

    I was surprised to find that this helmet was even more comfortable then my wildland helmet. It is heavier of course, but the suspension and padding are worlds beyond any other helmet I have tried.

    They are going to be hard to beat.
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    Default The 1500s

    Good to get more feedback on the PHX 1500s. Just a
    side note. The do work great for all applications-
    structural, wildland, I-zone and even haz-mat.
    The funny thing was, they were only intended for
    structural application but they just ended up being
    multi-tasked.

    FYI- They meet and exceed all of the NFPA guildlines,
    OSHA, Cal OSHA, etc.
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    Talking Kevlar?................

    Isn't Kevlar a small settlement in the southern part of Estonia? OK, I know what Kevlar is, I've had a Pacific Tech Rescue Helment since Oct. 1990, and that sucker's seen some jobs. It's still in excellent shape though, and I like it a lot.
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    Originally posted by arhaney
    firemanjb, how does the blade system on the new LT series work? Looked on the web site and it really didn't explain very well. I've got the Kevlar helmet on hand now, I'll let you guys know what we think.............Thanks for the swift replies.
    The blade system is essentially a quick-clip system for attaching or removing the faceshield or the goggles. Instead of pulling out the cotter pin, unscrewing the nut and removing all the washers, you just push on the extensions for the blade and pull out. Replacement parts are easier and removing the faceshield before tower training (when most shields get melted) is a 5-second operation.
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    To the topic of the thread - My regional Tech. Rescue Team uses the Kiwi helmet and I have found it to be O.K. - it's the only "Rescue" style helmet I've worn other than the Uber Construction Hard Hat ones.
    The things I don't like about the Kiwi's are:

    1) The integral flashlight gets worn and we ended up putting a couple wraps of cloth tape around the flashlight to make them stay snug again. I lost one a while back while standing on a 35ft ladder trying to break down some rigging in the dark. I looked down for a sec. & poof - there went my light. Had to break the rest of the system down by feel & moonlight.

    2) The integral visor gets loose and won't stay in the stored position. I'm sure there is a means to tighten this, however since the helmets stay on the trailer and no one has the manuals to them - I have no clue how to fix it.


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    Pacific Helmets is a New Zealand company.
    And a damn good one, The New Zealand Fire Service has used their "Battle Bowlers" for years and we do like them.

    Check out http://www.pacifichelmets.com/

    They even do a "Traditional" USA style helmet (although I think thats more of a joke than anything)
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    We are looking at the F3C model. Don't care for the "traditional helmet" myself, in fact almost no department in my part of the US uses traditional helmets.
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    From the Pacific site

    A "Yankee" Traditional style helmet that is popular in the good old US of A, which comes with brass eagle and a leather badge. Pacific manfacture this helmet in standard colours Daisy, Red, Blue, Black, and fit with face shield and neck protector.

    Bet the guys at the firehouse love the "Daisy" helmets LOL.

    Not to snag the thread but are the west coast helmets anything like the old Shelco helmets. We had some back years ago.
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    I do like some of the features of this helmet but the old saying goes the more you have to mess up.............

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    - Automated face shield
    - Automated chin strap
    - Integrated breathing mask with on
    demand air delivery

    Planned release of prototype 2004.

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    Originally posted by Firefighter430
    Not to snag the thread but are the west coast helmets anything like the old Shelco helmets. We had some back years ago.
    If your talking about the Phenix models, I dont know.
    Also, I dont think they are just considered a "West
    Coast thing." They are sold all over the world and
    back East as well.

    Kiwi- When can I send you one to look at and try out?

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    Sorry no disrespect there just old habit. The Phenix syle helmet just reminds me of the west coast. I have gone to there web page and noticed that Bedford Co. VA fire departments are using Phenix helmets and that explains a helmet that one of our regional fire instructors from Bedford was wearing a year or so ago. I remember him saying it was the best helmet he had ever worn during one of the breaks. It did stand out in class though. Something about the high dome.
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    Off Topic

    I really hope that The FireStore (or someone) has the Phenix helmets at the Expo. I have been wanting to divest myself of my 1010 because I can't seem to get it to fit me comfortably. I had been planning on going leather however I often have to do Technical work, brush Fires, EMS/Extrication too and I can't afford to buy specialty helmets for all these applications so after hearing all the high praise for these Phenix helmets I am really leaning cowards one of those instead.

    Maybe I can get someone from Bedford Co. to loan me one for a "test drive" between now & Expo time.

    CALFFBOU & CaptOldTimer - thanks for bringing these helmets to our attention.
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    Default No problem...

    Originally posted by Firefighter430
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    Sorry no disrespect there just old habit. The Phenix syle helmet just reminds me of the west coast. I have gone to there web page and noticed that Bedford Co. VA fire departments are using Phenix helmets and that explains a helmet that one of our regional fire instructors from Bedford was wearing a year or so ago. I remember him saying it was the best helmet he had ever worn during one of the breaks. It did stand out in class though. Something about the high dome.
    None taken brother...I understand. I dont know about the
    "high dome" part since they do sit low on your head.
    Take care.
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    Originally posted by arhaney
    We are looking at the F3C model. Don't care for the "traditional helmet" myself, in fact almost no department in my part of the US uses traditional helmets.
    I don't mean to pry, but could I ask What part of the US?
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    Steering back to Pacific helmets, I've used the modern style (F3)in both kevlar and fibreglass shells and they are a reasonable helmet, weight is excellent, balance and fit is ok as well.(this is an individual thing though.) Basically they are fairly similar to the Cairns 660CAS in style which is what my career dept issues and I use and I find that a good helmet for fit and ride, although a little heavier than the Pacific. However for all round use (structural, wildland, MVA's etc) the Phenix 1500 is lightweight, fits well and is well balanced fore/aft, and this is my choice for my vollie dept. I've just got a Phenix TL2 leather as well and I'll be putting it to the test in the near future. It sure is the lightest "real leather" helmet out there. - Peter

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    Originally posted by N2DFire
    Off Topic- I had been planning on going leather however I often have to do Technical work, brush Fires, EMS/Extrication too and I can't afford to buy specialty helmets for all these applications so after hearing all the high praise for these Phenix helmets I am really leaning cowards one of those instead.
    #1- I can loan you a Phenix helmet if you want. PM me and
    we can work it out.

    #2. Here is a black one on sale on ebay-
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    hwoods, we are in North Mississippi. After checking the helmet out good we have decided against them. The hardware looks kind of cheap, visor screws are very small and the neck flap is only a single layer of Nomex. These helmets were $50.00 higher than the rest as well.
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