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    Arrow Covington Ky Taking Applications

    Covington, Kentucky is accepting applications for the position of firefighter through May 21, 2004 and firefighter/paramedic through March 26. The link for the positions is: City of Covington.

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    It doesn't pay enough money to be working up there, plus with the other rules. Better jobs elsewhere.







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    Originally posted by CaptOldTimer
    It doesn't pay enough money to be working up there, plus with the other rules. Better jobs elsewhere.






    What other rules are you talking about?

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    Well,


    A residency requirement, within 180 days, 40 miles radius of fire department headquarters, within the state of Kentucky upon hire.


    This isn't right. It limits as to where a employee can live.


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    City Code 33.06 Re[ayment of Training Costs.

    All Police and Fire appointees as a condition of their appointment, must agree to reimbruse the city for their training expenses if they leave the city within three years after their appointment date and become employed by another govenmental unit or entity as a member of the same service for which they were trained by the city according to the following.

    Leave after the second anniversary and before the third, shall reimburse the city $1,500.

    Leave after the first and before the second, shall reimburse the city $3,000.

    Leave the city prior to the first anniversary, reimburse the city $4,000.

    I have been to Covington, KY. It is not a city that I would want to work in regardless of what they would pay me. It is a filty place.


    What happens, if you go through all the hoops and after a year, you find that this it not what you want and you need to leave. It will still cost you. If you like a lot of others people looking for the right job with the right fire department and have several applications in and the BIG CITY fire department calls you for an interview and you in fact get that job, you still will have to pay. Now if the BIG CITY fire department is paying more than little city fd, $35,000 or better to start, then it would be worth paying litte city fd their money.

    My thoughts on this.

    I don't think any one should be required to live in the city, town or state which the burg is located that they work for.

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    I agree with you on Residency requirements, but then again, I guess I'm used to seeing them. It is very common up here. The local "big city" FD requires you to live in the city. They currently give waivers out to people who have 10+ years in, but that's it. Many others require you to live in either a certain radius, or the same or adjoining counties, or something similar to that.......

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    The residency requirment doesn't always work. Years back in the 70's our city had invoked one. When they found out that the city workers could influnce the votes and some council members was being knocked off of council, they soon resended this rule!

    Directors and Deputy Directors are to live in the city. Some don't as they use a mailing address in the city of property that they own as their legal residence. Of course this is not right, but some are able to skirt the rules.

    As long as you had a valid Virginia drivers license you can live where ever. We have guys living in Kentland Maryland, North Carolina and all over the state as far as 100 to 150 miles from the city.

    I live in an county near the city so I can get to work in a reasonbale amount of time and get back if so needed while off duty.

    I know of a member of a county depatment that is next to us that had a member living in Myrtle beach, South Carolina! he would come up work his three days, stay with his sister and go home for his four day break, That dept work the 3-4 shift. He has since retired.

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    Just so you know, I wasn't saying I agree with residency requirements, per se. Do I think you need to live within the city you work? Nope. Do you need to live within the county you work in? Nope. The state you work in? Nope. Do I think you should live somewhat near it? Yep. I think you should live somewhat near where you are working in case of recalls or major catastrophies where you would be needed to come in to work ASAP. Personally, I think a 1 hr drive should be the very most each direction.


    *** I am referencing Full or Part Time employment. Not POC or Volunteer***

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    I have been to Richmond, VA. It is not a city that I would want to work in regardless of what they would pay me. It is a filthy place. I'm so glad that the last time I was in Richmond that everyone in that sparkling clean town was living in million dollar homes and driving a Rolls-Royce. There wasn't a single run down building or a bit of trash.

    The pay at Covington is on par with any department in the area including Cincinnati. Firefighters from the surrounding towns make an effort to get hired at Covington, not leave from there.

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    I have been to Cincinnati. Covington, which was so bad, that when I was in the Army in the 1950's, it was posted as OFF LIMITS to all military personnel.
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    Wow, the 1950's. There was gambling and prostitution in Northern Kentucky then. Newport could be a very unpleasant place. The casinos and other illegal enterprises were in Campbell County (next county east) with the exception of a couple of places in Park Hills and Ft. Wright. None of these locations were in Covington.

    Obviously you are unaware of the growth and development that has occurred in Covington since then. There are numerous hotel and office developments in the Downtown area around the thriving convention center. Covington is quite healthy financially, they aren't trying to survive.

    Also, you should look at the City of Covington web site again. Those pictures are all locations within the city. That is the downtown area, those are nice, new residential housing units. Covington is not perfect, but to say that is filthy is a gross misrepresentation.

    The Covington F.D. and P.D. have been continuously adding positions for years now because the city's finances are so strong. The firefighter/paramedic positions that are being announced are new hires for the department, not replacements for retirees.

    Also, the residency requirement is in place because Covington does recall firefighters for overtime when they have a large fire or incident. The residency requirement is not an abstract concept. Personnel need to live within a reasonable distance so that they can be called in to staff reserve apparatus.

    It appears that your viewpoints are based on misconceptions that you have decided to share. If you want to slam someplace, stick to a department and region that you're acquainted with.



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    I have nothing else to say about covington or Northern Kentucky.

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    Here's the private message that CaptOldTimer sent me. He had something to say.

    I'm impressed with the fact that he has the RIGHT to say what he wants, but he doesn't seem to like it when someone voices a different opinion..

    By the way Capt, if you don't like this, don't read it, and stop trashing up my e-mail.



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    Covington is not all that bad. It still has some parts that are a bit spooky after dark, but all in all the city has much to offer. There are some great pubs (Jack Quinns) and such down there. Combine that with the new growth and development Newport (Newport on the Levee) has seen, the area is looking nice. It does have more to do to improve its reputation and standing.

    I wouldn't say Covington is any more filthy than Richmond, Cincinnati, Louisville, New York, Boston, or any other large city. Heck, Covington is all that large either. All that being said, I'll stay on the north side of the river.

    Cincinnati Fire (just across the river and taking apps too) also has a similar residency requirement: you must live in Hamilton county. Mason (OH) Fire (FDCM, BillyG's former department and also hiring) alsohas a residency requirement of 30minutes driving time. It's not all that uncommon and no reason to bash a department...

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