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    What are your feeling and opinions towards the use of tobacco in fire Departments and any Fire Department vehicles?
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    I use it and I rather enjoy it, thanks for asking.
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    we have no rules about the use of tobacco at our dept. not many of us use it but those of us that do can use it in our trucks. this has not been an issue yet. it is however a volunteer dept. i find that is a very good stress reliever

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    People worried about second hand smoke as firefighters is like people worried about skin cancer being lifeguards.

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    There is no tobacco use of any kind allowed in any city building, here. It is also prohibited to smoke, dip, or chew in fire apparatus.

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    Our dept...No smoking in the hall...No smoking in the trucks...If yah wanna smoke...Go outside...The smokers of the dept abide by this rule and everyones happy

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    Cool Recent Quitter!!!

    I recently quit smoking. We were never allowed to smoke/tobacco use on any fd vehicle and it was banned in stations about 3 years ago, with exception of truck floor. But, those who chewed or rubbed got away with everything. I know my smoke was irritating but, I also find cups of spit disgusting too. Now I'd prefer that everybody keep it out of the station totally because it just makes me want one....I smoked for over 20 years. Heavily!!!
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    Burnie, good job on quitting! It's the best thing you could probably have done for yourself. Chew lots of gum!
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    In Massachusetts it is against state Civil Service laws to use tobacco products if you were appointed after November of 1988. No pipes, chew, dip, cigars, or cigarettes. If you were appointed before then, you can do all you want.

    There have been many guys released from their jobs fo rusing tobacco. The unions try to fight it but lose because when you are appointed you have to sign a document that says you understand the law and it is an announcement for every exam offered by the state.

    This was part of the pension reform act and also part of the preseumtive heart and lung bill that the state legislature adopted. This law also applies to call and volunteer fierfighters as well as full-time and reserve police officers.

    I don't have a problems with it.

    People worried about second hand smoke as firefighters is like people worried about skin cancer being lifeguards.
    Not true. I can get enough crap in my lungs I do not need to get any help from another guy's tobacco smoke. I can handle building smoke from a fire, but tobacco smoke irritates my nose, eyes, and lungs much worse. As for the presumptive heart / lung bill - I can't balem the towns. You are already at a higher risk for developing many forms of cancer, so you shouldn't be helping it along.
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    No smoking allowed in town owned property which includes our trucks, but not our building.

    I don't smoke and it really doesn't bother me if people do or don't smoke.
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    From the city where tobacco was once the largest employer with over 12 plants, the City has established rules on smoking.

    No smoking in city building. Fire does and can have a designated inside area so smokers can smoke. Usually the apparatus room or the in some cases the kitchen, when meals are not being taken.

    There is a no smoking rule for any and all city vehicles. No smoking inside any vehicle. Althought, this is hard to enforce with the single driver vehicles.

    As a smoker who stopped after nearly 30 years, I have no problem with those who smoke. Just don't blow your smoke at me. I do not like chewing gum either. I got through the withdrawals by mind control and mints.

    There are department that have new members sign an agreement that they will not smoke or stop if they are smoking at time of hire.



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    No tobacco in our hall, no tobacco in our trucks, no tobacco on training nights, no tobacco on fire scenes. I guess you could say we have a stringent policy. But everyone gets along and nobody is angry over it.
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    I haven't thought much of Massachusetts policies & legislation, but Sharkie brought up a terrific one.

    I can't begin to imagine why someone would destroy their lungs & cardiovascular system with such obvious crap as tobacco products. It makes me wonder why these people would bother using BA's in a fire or wear their seat belts.

    Any habit that interferes with my human right to life shall be regulated. As illness & death are undoubtedly linked to smoking AND secondhand smoke, I see absolutely no reason to allow this into an environment where smokers & nonsmokers must cohabitate.

    Finally, we work in a high profile occupation. We set examples for the public, whether it be duty on the job or actions on the road, in BARS, or anywhere that we can somehow be associated with the fire service. Why should a town that issues a T-shirt allow its members to promote a negative image with the public with such things as smoking? As for municipal liability, I say image & health go hand in hand, and any municipality that is responsible for someone's health benefits has every right to say a city employee will NOT remain employed with the use of carcinogenic products.
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    Loo,

    That is the best analogy I've ever heard! LOL!

    I don't smoke tobacco often...one or two cigars a year.
    But I don't really worry about anyone who smokes around me...I've got more to worry about the smoke at fires.


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    We have a citywide policy of no tobacco use inside city buildings. We can smoke outside in one designated spot on the back side of the station. We have to keep it clean otherwise it will be gone very quick. There is absolutely no tobacco use in any vehicle or on any scene or in the eyes of the public.

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    Smoking is restricted to the apparatus floor.

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    Smoking is prohibited in the fire house and apparatus, if you need a smoke, you go outside.Although dipping or chewing is allowed in apparatus, firehouse and on scene. i dont smoke, but i dip ALOT (can't run on a call without it)

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