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    Unhappy Reserve pumper blues

    Well our pumper went OOS with major pump problems. We've been complaining of a rattle at 1500 rpm for a while. Well several months of inattention have turned the rattle into more of a WHANG-WHANG-WHANG, but that's another story.

    Anyway, I'm stuck on a '76 ALF POS. Before the ALF purists flame me, let me say that I think the ALF 900 and the ALF Century represent the pinacle of elegance of the modern era in fire apparatus. With the right engine they were (are?) unstoppable. But I'm talking about a '76 ALF Pioneer.

    Every morning that I walk into the station I have to pause for a moment and ask "What the hell was ALF thinking!?!" It's an ARFF wannabe. It's a 5/4 scale Tonka. It's just BUTT UGLY and it sounds like a bull with its proverbials in a wringer when it goes down the road. There's not enough room in the jump seats to get SCBA straps on. I'm short half of my equipment because there's no compartment space. The steering wheel has about 1/4 turn slop-to-slop. It's not house broken and wets the floor (I have to remember to check the water level in the tank in the morning). Its. . .


    There's really no point to all of this. Just thought I'd vent with some folks who might appreciate my frustration.
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    But I'm talking about a '76 ALF Pioneer.
    I know what you mean; we have one still in service, except it's a '73, I believe. I don't care how careful I am when I have to drive/ride it...I always end up banging my elbow, or cutting something on all that cheesy metal interior; what a cheap crapmobile.

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    Default Re: Reserve pumper blues

    Originally posted by ullrichk
    It's not house broken and wets the floor (I have to remember to check the water level in the tank in the morning).
    So, why not fill the tank about 5 minutes before the next call comes in.
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    Default I know the feeling too...

    We just retired our '73 Ward LaFrance and donated it to the County Training Center so our '76 Ward is now our Draft truck/third Engine. It's not housebroken either and has no room for the "In-Cab" stuff. It also looks puny next to the 2 Spartans. HOWEVER...she still runs and pumps great and I LIKE the sound of that old Detroit screaming like a bull with it's package in a bench vise.
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    We should make this a song–“The Pioneer Pumper Blues”...


    Got to the station this mornin’
    And my engine was down
    It was off at the pump shop
    At the other end of town

    Couldn’t believe what I was seein’
    Was right there in my bay
    That was when I realized
    It’d be a Pioneer day


    Now add your verses–especially you, ullrichk, since you’re the one who actually has the Pioneer Pumper Blues.
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    man that pumper is ugly!

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    Default I know the "feeling"....

    I don't care how careful I am when I have to drive/ride it...I always end up banging my elbow
    Yep, While I was getting in my driving time, this is the same one I fractured my elbow on while trying to make a sharp turn. What was hilarious is it scared the crap out of the guy riding with me because he jumped and yelled "What the he** was that!"
    I'm just glad it's now our reserve engine instead of our second due.
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    EastKY, I'll add some if I get any downtime today. Good start though!

    Nozz - lose the booster reels and paint it maroon and it looks just like mine.

    Manual or auto? Mine's auto (got "updated" several years back) and scoots like a herd of turtles.
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    What's weird is how easy it would be for Jesse James to make it look like the good kind of ALF...
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    Reserve Pumper Blues

    Got to the station this mornin’
    And my engine was down
    It was off at the pump shop
    At the other end of town

    Couldn’t believe what I was seein’
    Was right there in my bay
    That was when I realized
    It’d be a Pioneer day

    (Got to work on a chorus here )

    The oldtimer said,
    "She's a beautiful truck!"
    We stared in amazement
    And said WTF??

    They sent a reserve
    It was the only one left
    So we fired it on up
    Now my crew is all deaf

    The tones came in early
    Men donned SCBA
    The guys in the jump seat
    Are still stuck there today
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    Default But back in 1973

    Originally posted by ThNozzleman

    I know what you mean; we have one still in service, except it's a '73, I believe. I don't care how careful I am when I have to drive/ride it...I always end up banging my elbow, or cutting something on all that cheesy metal interior; what a cheap crapmobile.
    it was probably considered a nice rig

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    Default Re: But back in 1973

    Originally posted by pfd3501
    it was probably considered a nice rig
    Isn't that funny, though? No matter how old, how loud, how small, or how slow your reserve rig is... It was probably once considered "the pride of the fleet."

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    Nozz - lose the booster reels and paint it maroon and it looks just like mine.
    Maroon???

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    Well it aint red!

    (I said it was ugly.)
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    We're using our Reserve right now but we love it, it's a 1969 Mack and the thing can pump like nobody's business (plus being one of the two trucks with a Federal Q on it helps it's cause )
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    Our reserve never responds to calls. Only pulls out of it's bay once a year to do pump and hose tests. Most members of the VFD have never even driven this truck.
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    Default We've got the reserve tanker blues

    Actually, other than less capacity, (1500 gal for the backup vs 3500gal) it's not a problem. And it's a pumper/tanker (750 gpm front mount) vs what is basically a tanker only (well, it does have a 500 gpm darley driven off the PTO

    If/when we get the grant to retrofit CAFS to our frontline engine, then our 1st line pumper/tanker will be the engine for several weeks and the reserve pumper tanker will be pulled up in the front line, also.

    and then we'll be taking most of our manpower to the scene in the backup ambulance

    but hopefully, the quoted time to retrofit will be accurate.
    Hopefully.

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    First of all you need to type LOUD....I worked a OT shift and we made a run in the 1st out 79 ALF to my neighbors to the West.

    Actually that is the only real complaint that I have....is that Open cab is LOUD. Especially riding right next to the motor.
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