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    Default Rural/Metro's future?

    The company is over 50 years old, but pulling out of a city
    in Arizona. What else is in their future?

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    Bankruptcy? ....... hopefully....

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    Flush the scabs!!!!

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    Parond my ignorance, but...

    WTF are you talking about?
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    Rural Metro is a non-union for profit supplier of emergency workers.

    http://www.ruralmetro.com/

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    Answer:"Gee we sure will miss Rural Metro in this town"

    Question: What phrase will never be udderd........ever.
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    I've never heard much good or bad about Rural/Metro. Saw them on quite a few episodes of Paramedics on Discovery Health chanel. But all I've ever know since I was a child is Acadian Ambulance. Acadian is first rate. My department has a close working relationship with them. At one time, 4 of my Chiefs' daughters worked for Acadian Ambulance. We invite them to many of our events and at last nights Installation of Officers Dinner it was an Acadian Ambulance supervisor who swore in our Officers. It's Acadian who teaches our First Responder medical and CPR/AED classes.
    If Rural/Metro ever hopes to move into this area they will have a fight to meet the standards Acadian Ambulance has in place.
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    R/M's New Jersey Central Office is located in my town, I dont think they are staying to much longer rumor has it. I worked for them for about 2 months...Money was good but lets put it this way...I dont like driving a mobile death trap. I got hired during the Union Battle and quit before the voting day. From what I hear the union got shot down...which I feel sorry for the workers ....
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    I'm completely in the dark with this whole Rural Metro deal, can anyone give me a backround as to what is wrong with them and if there is actually anything good (although I'm guessing not).

    Thanks

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    I know they're not in the same league as R/M but It seems AMR is dying in MI. They lost Monroe county earlier this year, closed their Western Wayne County office a couple of years ago, and have a shriveling presence in Genesee county.

    Hmmm... The death of gigantic national ambulance companies? One can only hope.
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    A Law Against private for-profit business being involved in any form of public safety. Period. Forever.
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    I think I'd have to agree with collegebuff on that one. I dislike the gigantic machines that the national companies have become. Seriously like in MI. AMR consolidated dispatch for the detroit metro area (Not sure maybe the state) to one location. So we have dispatchers who have never even come close to the area trying to dispatch to that area. Granted I'm sure they have the state of the art mappingings system. That doesn't beat experience. Or if a client has a complaint the end of the line is a reigonal supervisor?!?! and he doesn't have the power to do jack diddly squat. All of their coverage is by some formula. That is why they lost Monroe county to a tiny company. The owner had the lattitude to do what he needed. The Monroe county govt. had 3 demands out of the companies that were bidding. 3 of them were larger companies. The only one to meet them and not try and tell the govt. what they wanted to do was a tiny company. The owner came to all the meetings and said OK you want it you got it.

    Granted he is still a for profit company but he is also part of the community. That's the way it should be.
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    CB, you may be surprised but I believe that there is a law in this state that prohibits private ambulances from responding to 911 calls. I don't mean the Bristol Ambulance but ones like yours, Universal and AMR. It stemmed from AMR guys listening to scanners in their trucks and trying to beat the FD into those calls and scoop the patient.

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    To my way of thinking it is not the size of the company that is wrong, it is the morality. There is something wrong with trying to make a profit from people's misery. I realize an argument can be made that for profit firefighting is no different then buying insurance, but it seems to me to immoral.
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    Default Re: There ought to be a Law...................

    Originally posted by hwoods
    A Law Against private for-profit business being involved in any form of public safety. Period. Forever.
    I strongly disagree.

    The last time I checked, only one community in my entire state maintained it's own ALS ambulance service (not counting the few with FD-based ambulances). The remainder of the cities and towns either contract with an outside company or offer BLS service. Ban for-profit ambulance services and many communities would be left without access to advanced life support.

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    Default Rural Metro leaving Rochester, NY??

    I just got out of a class at the Fire Academy and an individual from the Rochester area said it's starting to look like they are getting ready to pull out. He said as of last week they were down to 2 managers from 8 last year. He also refered to a couple other signs that I shouldn't go into here. I'm not sure what'll happen on the other side of the situation, but I'll keep an ear out for Syracuse, Auburn and Buffalo developments.
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    Private for profit emergency service providers, are best utilised providing emergency response to industrial corporations, power stations, airports, military bases etc. This is the situation in Australia where companies such as Transfield, Serco, BAE, Tenix, Flashpoint and Deanmac have filled a niche in the market. In the Industrial area in particular, fire, rescue and medical services are usually provided in conjunction with OSH programs and management. Sometimes site security is also handled by the contractor.
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    I think the original idea behind the for-profit emergency providers was sound in theory: that a private company could provide service more efficiently than a government bureaucracy with all its political webs. A part of the savings was kept as profit and the rest "returned" to the taxpayer.

    Problem is, it only works in theory.
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    The company is over 50 years old, but pulling out of a city in Arizona. What else is in their future?
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    The sad part of the whole deal is the line grunt firefighters or EMS personnel that suffer when Rural Metro or who ever pulls out of the contracts. They are left hoping to get on with the new municipal department, but generally they are left with no guarantees of anything. The fact that they are firefighters or EMS for a private company does not diminish their worth in the grand scheme of things.

    And no I am not a firefighter for a private company.

    smoke20286...

    Morality? Profitting from peoples misery? Happens everyday in this country. Hospitals, doctors, pharmacies, tow truck drivers, insurance companies, lawyers...and so on and so on...I think your argument in that regard is flawed. If the private fire department offers quality service and the contracts are continually renewed the owner of the company deserves to make a profit just as any business owner does.

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