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    Question any ex scouts or current scouts?

    I my self have been involved for over 10 years.
    There wasnt even tiger cubs when I started.

    I am an adult leader, eagle scout, tom tom beater in the tribe of Mic-O-Say, and brotherhood member in the Order of The arrow.

    Any body else have ties to scouting or currently involved?


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    Are you talking boy scouts or what.

    Sorry, never was a boy scout.

    But, I did start fighting fire in 1988 at the age of 13, bor in 1975.

    Not realy by choice, the fire season in Montana that year was off the scale, and well documented.

    Not that I condone child labor...But when you start em youngh you get to the roots.

    At the age of 29 I am a 16 year vetrain.

    Yes, I started way to young, but, I was "mature" for my age, my Pop was the asistant chief, and I was SERIOUS aboout what I was doing.

    I regret to say that I have me very few serious youths in the last 5 years of fighting fire.

    I have done it as a liveing (professionaly) for 4 years, and now I am a Disaster and emrgency services Coordinator.

    I still volunteer, and firefighting is my first love.

    Anyway, boyscouts are damn fine firefighters form my personal experience.
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    Yes I am talking about boyscouts, and the reason we are dam fine fire fighters, is because we play with fire at every campout and learn how it works and how to put it out. Well that is what our scoutmaster said.

    I allways like looking back at history and seeing how many eagle scouts are in high places, many chiefs and officers are eagles, most male astronaut are eagles, eagles are the backbone of the country.


    Well bill clinton was an eagle, not in a hight place anymore.

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    I was a girl scout. Everyone in my troop quit all at once, so I didn't have much drive after that to contine with it. Never got beyond the "Junior" (or green color) level. My older brother is an eagle scout (order of the arrow and all that), and my dad was a scout (eagle and order of the arrow etc). I don't think as highly of the girl scout program as the boy scouts, but that's just my opinion. It doesn't seem as stuctured and I didn't get much out of it...I did get the cookies before everyone else though. We weren't taught much about camping, knots, the outdoors, etc. it was mostly community service and home-making type projects. We also didn't associate with other troops as closely as the boy scouts in our area did. Looking back on it I'm kindof dissapointed. Maybe it's much better in other areas, or has changed with the times. Perhaps the Venture scouts is the way to go for girls, although I don't know too much about it...
    For those from Canada...what type of scouting to yall have up there?

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    I was a girl scout. Everyone in my troop quit all at once, so I didn't have much drive after that to contine with it. Never got beyond the "Junior" (or green color) level. My older brother is an eagle scout (order of the arrow etc etc), and my dad was a scout (eagle and order of the arrow etc etc). I don't think as highly of the girl scout program as I do the boy scouts, but that's just my opinion. It doesn't seem as stuctured and I didn't get much out of it...I did get the cookies before everyone else though. We weren't taught much about camping, knots, the outdoors, etc. it was mostly community service and home-making type projects. We also didn't associate with other troops as closely as the boy scouts in our area did. Looking back on it I'm dissapointed. Maybe it's much better in other areas, or has changed since. Perhaps the Venture scouts is the way to go for girls, although I don't know too much about it...
    For those from Canada...what type of scouting to yall have up there?

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    I was a girl scout. Everyone in my troop quit all at once, so I didn't have much drive after that to contine with it. Never got beyond the "Junior" (or green color) level. My older brother is an eagle scout (order of the arrow etc etc), and my dad was a scout (eagle and order of the arrow etc etc). I don't think as highly of the girl scout program as the boy scouts, but that's just my opinion. It doesn't seem as stuctured and I didn't get much out of it...I did get the cookies before everyone else though. We weren't taught much about camping, knots, the outdoors, etc. it was mostly community service and home-making type projects. We also didn't associate with other troops as closely as the boy scouts in our area did. Looking back on it I'm kindof dissapointed. Maybe it's much better in other areas, or has changed with the times. Perhaps the Venture scouts is the way to go for girls, although I don't know too much about it...
    For those from Canada...what type of scouting to yall have up there?

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    I was a girl scout. Everyone in my troop quit all at once, so I didn't have much drive after that to contine with it. Never got beyond the "Junior" (or green color) level. My older brother is an eagle scout (order of the arrow etc etc), and my dad was a scout (eagle and order of the arrow etc etc). I don't think as highly of the girl scout program as the boy scouts, but that's just my opinion. It doesn't seem as stuctured and I didn't get much out of it...I did get the cookies before everyone else though. We weren't taught much about camping, knots, the outdoors, etc. it was mostly community service and home-making type projects. We also didn't associate with other troops as closely as the boy scouts in our area did. Looking back on it I'm kindof dissapointed. Maybe it's much better in other areas, or has changed with the times. Perhaps the Venture scouts is the way to go for girls, although I don't know too much about it...
    For those from Canada...what type of scouting to yall have up there?

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    I was a girl scout. Everyone in my troop quit all at once, so I didn't have much drive after that to contine with it. Never got beyond the "Junior" (or green color) level. My older brother is an eagle scout (order of the arrow etc etc), and my dad was a scout (eagle and order of the arrow etc etc). I don't think as highly of the girl scout program as the boy scouts, but that's just my opinion. It doesn't seem as stuctured and I didn't get much out of it...I did get the cookies before everyone else though. We weren't taught much about camping, knots, the outdoors, etc. it was mostly community service and home-making type projects. We also didn't associate with other troops as closely as the boy scouts in our area did. Looking back on it I'm kindof dissapointed. Maybe it's much better in other areas, or has changed with the times. Perhaps the Venture scouts is the way to go for girls, although I don't know too much about it...
    For those from Canada...what type of scouting to yall have up there?

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    I was a girl scout. Everyone in my troop quit all at once, so I didn't have much drive after that to contine with it. Never got beyond the "Junior" (or green color) level. My older brother is an eagle scout (order of the arrow etc etc), and my dad was a scout (eagle and order of the arrow etc etc). I don't think as highly of the girl scout program as the boy scouts, but that's just my opinion. It doesn't seem as stuctured and I didn't get much out of it...I did get the cookies before everyone else though. We weren't taught much about camping, knots, the outdoors, etc. it was mostly community service and home-making type projects. We also didn't associate with other troops as closely as the boy scouts in our area did. Looking back on it I'm kindof dissapointed. Maybe it's much better in other areas, or has changed with the times. Perhaps the Venture scouts is the way to go for girls, although I don't know too much about it...
    For those from Canada...what type of scouting to yall have up there?

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    Originally posted by expvol
    Yes I am talking about boyscouts, and the reason we are dam fine fire fighters, is because we play with fire at every campout and learn how it works and how to put it out. Well that is what our scoutmaster said.
    Your "scoutmaster" was wrong!

    As an former Scout and one of the adult leaders of my son's BSA troop, the campfire was not a "plaything"... it was a tool used to provide warmth, a place to cook (in our troop, before you got the priviledge of cooking on a camp stove, you had to prove that you could cook over an open fire and hot coals)and a source of light in the evening hours of a camping trip.

    "Playing with fire" sends the wrong message!
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    I'm an Eagle Scout, leader, and a Brotherhood member of the OA. As is my younger brother. My sister tried Girls Scouts but didn't stick with it. She wanted something more like Boy Scouts with camping etc, but got how to be a good housewife instead. I believe Campfire Girls is more like Boy Scouts. Canada allows girls in their units.

    Got a little over excited there didn't you emtbff927.
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    I started out as a tiger cub. Moved up to boy scout. Didnt stick with it to long though. It wasnt very active in Danvers at the time and there were like 4-6 of us. I stopped going a few months into it.

    I liked playing with my train set and enjoyed rideing in the once a week local train that went down the branch next to my house than I ever did sitting in the church basement makeing grahm cracker houses.
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    woo, sorry about the mulitple posting. My computer is having some problems...

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    Eagle Scout - 1986

    I've been an Assistant Scoutmaster (1990-2002) and am involved with Cub Scouting now that I have a son old enough to be in Tiger Cubs.

    Scouting has always been an important part of my life. I'm hoping my boys will enjoy it as much as I did (and still do).

    FWIW I have read that Boy Scouts, statistically speaking, have a lower incidence of juvenile firesetting, probably because they are allowed to explore the proper use of fire as a tool (with supervision, of course). I can't find the reference at the moment, but I used the info in a paper for my Fire Administration degree.
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    I spent a couple of years as a Cub Scout but didn't stay in long enough to move up. Besides, the Scouts were church sponcered and I was at the age that I was asking all of the questions that came from my exploring my atheist side.
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    I started in first grade with tiger cubs and finnished with eagle.

    It's because of the scouts I joined the explorers.

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    I am am Eagle Scout - 1983 amd am currently an Assistant Scoutmaster with my sons troop. Trying to get him to do his last three merit badges for Eagle Scout.

    Best times of my life were in Scouting other than fire fighting of course

    edit: Course raising my two kids was fun also
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    Eagle Scout ... and Gonzo ... it certainly ain't right, but I can certainly remember multiple times where we "played with fire."

    Note that I am not advocating this by any means. Fire, as it relates to Scouting, is a tool to be respected.

    However, I can honestly say that I don't think Scouting really had anything to do with my involvement in the fire service ... that was more of a family thing.

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    I am an Eagle Scout, got it in 2000.

    oh, just for the record, there is no such thing as someone who was an Eagle Scout. Once an Eagle Scout, always an Eagle Scout.
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    I am an eagle scout, I received my eagle in 1990, and ended up getting involved in high school sports after that. Kinda lost interest in scouting. While in scouts I was a brotherhood member of the OA. We did have some good times camping though.
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