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    I was wondering what type of communication equipment other departments use. Portables or pagers. And if anyone has had any problems with the Minitor IV pager. Also does your depatment provide your radios for the personell

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    Well, our officers have portables and pagers, Minitor IV's or III's, not really that sure, as far as I know they work well for them. The active FF's, drivers, EMT's and Fire Police, have portables (Vertex VX-180's) and pagers (Minitor II's), except for the EMT's, they just have portables. As for the rest of the company who arent defined as the "top - active", then they only have pagers. Explorers despite some of them being more active then people who are issued portables and pagers, are issued just pagers. It works for us, we actually just recieved the portables for the "top-actives", they seem to work really well.
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    Everyone is issued a pager, (Minitor 2) upon joining. Once you get your First Responder card from Department of Health and Hospitials you get a BLS medical bag and a 'D' cylinder of O2 with airways and masks in a padded case to carry in your POV. Take some FF, Hazmat and maybe a extracation class (FF1 cert not required in our FD) and soon you are fitted by Bunker Gear Specialists for your hot suit, boots, helmet, gloves, etc... which will go in a big red bag and be carried in your POV next to your medical bag.
    Become an "ACTIVE" member by running alot of calls, making meetings and the rare training we sometimes have and you get a nice $1,200 Motorola 800MHz trunked radio to clip to your belt. All officers, Chief, Assist Chiefs and Deputy Chief, get a portable too.
    Besides the pager and the portable there's not much else to worry about when it comes to communication. Half the time the pagers don't go off because the low band signal doesn't travel well from the dispatch center to where ever you are. So it's good to be able to have a portable to key up when you see a truck running code past your house. At least then you can ask where they are headed and if they need you to pick up a truck or respond to the scene POV. Radios are sort of a reward for being "active" and since they cost over a grand each they don't get handed out to just everyone.
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    All firefighters are issued pagers we are going to minitor III and IV becaus we can program 2 channels in them since we are toned on one channel and respond on a second. They do seem tempermental at times but i think they are getting better. Only our officers carry potable radios though i feelwe need more out there so we know who is responding and if the trucks are rolling since we can respond in POVS

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    Hey cellblock I have a question do your emts who cary O2 in there povs have them labled to the fact that this cylinder is on board incase of fire or mva. Just wondering?????
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    The old Brick Minitor 1...Back in the dark ages....
    If someone with multiple personalities threatens to kill himself, is it considered a hostage situation?

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    All medical First Responders carry O2 'D' cylinders in their POVs. The answer is - NO- they don't have any labeling on their vehicles. Also, the Rescue/Service truck carries at least 10 'D' cylinders in the compartment where the medical gear is kept. Other trucks such as the City owned Brush truck (pickup w/skid unit) and all pumpers have First Responder medical bags and O2 'D' cylinders carried on board. None of these vehicles has any labeling on them regarding the O2 stored in the compartments.
    Of course, if I'm involved in a MVA or fire remember that in addition to the medical gear I have the Remington 12gauge shotgun and spare ammo in the trunk. There should also be a Ruger P-89 with about 45 rounds of 9mm ammo in 3 magazines in the passenger compartment and I usually wear a concealed Bersa .380cal pistol with 3 magazines on my waist. In case of wreck, get me out and have the police officer on the scene secure my stuff. In case of fire, run like heck.
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    cellblock said:"if I'm involved in a MVA or fire remember that in addition to the medical gear I have the Remington 12gauge shotgun and spare ammo in the trunk. There should also be a Ruger P-89 with about 45 rounds of 9mm ammo in 3 magazines in the passenger compartment and I usually wear a concealed Bersa .380cal pistol with 3 magazines on my waist. In case of wreck, get me out and have the police officer on the scene secure my stuff. In case of fire, run like heck."

    Wheres your bloody rocket launcher???
    If someone with multiple personalities threatens to kill himself, is it considered a hostage situation?

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    ... and the C4, and the homemade explosives, and the shape charges, and the sheep magazines.....


    Anyway, we have kind of two systems. One we have had for ages and another I am building right now as a replacement.

    Now:

    Low band simplex with two towers. Pagers are a combo of Minitor II and minitor IV. The minitor II's are far better than the minitor IV pagers. The apparatus all have cross-band repeaters in them allowing us to use UHF portable radios on scene. We can use the truck repeater channel to call dispatch va the mobile radio. The officers all have issues mobile and portable radios as well. Each apparatus has a portable for every airpack and the driver. Members are not issued their own portables. All the mobile radios are Kenwood TK-690 or TK-630. The whole thing is rather archeic and is jsut begining to be phased out.

    Being built now:

    UHF repeater installed on our main tower. Remote recivers will be installed in stratigic locations throughout town which will give us nearly 100% portable talk-back coverage. Anyone can say anything from anywhere in town and everyone will be able to copy it and this includes in-building (portable, pager, mobile, dispatch). UHF Mobiles (TK-890 or TK-830) will be installed in all the apparatus to take the operate on the repeater as well. I'm going to have a bunch of our low band minitor II's refurbed and converted to UHF for paging. I'm going to be testing the use of small portable radios for paging as well (VX-180, TK-3140) The repeater is in and some of the mobiles are in. While it is still being built, I have a cross-link to our low band channel in place so you can use either and have seamless communications. Once I have the remote receivers in place and it is operating at full capacity, will discontinue the use of low band completely. We might still simulcast dispatches but other than that, it will all be UHF.

    Most of the surrounding towns are planning to this, in the process of doing this, or have done this. Interoperability is dramaticlly increasing as well as efficiancy, coverage, and safety.
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    and the sheep magazines.....
    Keep laughing. When those gift subscriptions I signed you up for to Barnyard Babes, Sheared, Wool-lot-of-Love and BaaaBaaad Girls start showing up in your mail every month you will never be the same. You will be the talk of the Post Office.
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    Default Re: Communications

    Originally posted by hvfd2865
    I was wondering what type of communication equipment other departments use. Portables or pagers. And if anyone has had any problems with the Minitor IV pager. Also does your depatment provide your radios for the personell

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    Everyone on our department has a Pager and a Portable radio. The pagers are either Minitor II or III. The III's do not have voice storage (which would be nice).

    The chiefs have Kenwood 380s (I think). Most of the rest have Kenwood 270s. In addition, the new ones (about 10) have speaker mikes, the rest do not.

    They new Kenwoods also have the ability to recieve pages, but it just sucks. Two low beeps (even if you have the volume maxed). The Minitors are much better for that.

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    Originally posted by cellblock
    In case I get attacked by unusually fierce poodles or vicious chihuahaus I usually wear a concealed Bersa .380cal pistol with 3 magazines on my waist.

    Be safe,
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    When you become a Trainee, you're issued an alphanumeric pager. A text message for each dispatch, similar to what we see on the MCTs in our apparatus, is sent out for every call. It's considered supplemental to the radio dispatch. We also use the text pagers as our department "e-mail".

    When you go on probation, you're issued either a Minitor II or IV, depending on availability. The IIs are actually a little better as far as range, but they're being phased out as they die. Chief officers are issued IVs with a vibration option.

    Captains and Chiefs are also issed portable radios. Currently, both levels of Captain (Captain I and Captain II) are issued them, though they're going to begin taking them from the Captain Is to replace the ones on the rigs, and have just one available for a Captain I to take when he's the duty Captain.
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    Damn Cellblock ..must be a tough neighborhood down there in South Louisiana ... up here in the northern part of the state we feel as safe as in our mommy's arms (well except in Shreveport).

    Most of our personnel are issued portables. The only ones who do not have portables are are very newbies. We no longer purchase pagers at all .. very soon all members will have portables.

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    Everyone is issued a Kenwood TK-280 when they get hired. All the FT and PT are issued Minitor IV's and HAZMAT Team is issued Alphanumeric pagers also. All our radios are programmed with a "Mandown" button and our station and County 911 have recievers thatpick up the message from the radio.
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    We use Motorola HT750's, SP50's, and CT250's with paging built in. Neat thing about the HT750's is you can change the alert tone from the standard dull 3 beep. There's like 7 different tones, I have mine set on a loud alert that sounds similiar to a PASS device.

    All volunteer FD, each member has a radio.

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    The Department I Volunteer for - We use a combination of Minitor II, III, and IV. {Some of the II have the Stored Voice and all the III and IV have them} - Each new member in is issued what ever is available at the time. - Officers have portables along with a pager and some of the members including my-self have their own portables {Wide variety of brands}

    The department I'm a career member of works a little diffrent. - Each member is issued {if they want one} an Alpha Numeric Pager which receives all company messages and emergency calls in text form. If a volunteer wants a Minitor they must deposit $250.00 so to say the least only 7 or 8 guys are carrying those....Most rely on the house siren or scanners seems to work.....As a career guy we were given the alpha numerics which we must keep on 24/7 as a means of getting in touch with us

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    Every member recieves a pager (minitor II, III, and some IV). All officers have hand helds and some of the other guys have them also. Every department vehicle has at least 2 hand helds in it. IC van has several hand helds in it. Some personal have chosen to buy their own hand helds. Over all there is not too many problems with being able to communicate with dispatch or other units except in the extreme outer area. Which we are in the process of curing that problem with an additional tower.

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    all members are issued a pager and radio if avalible, some of us buy our own portable radio. we have a VHF system, one 100 watt repeater, a base station in both fire halls. the repeater has a Motorola MRTI 1000 on it. our county dispatch actually calls our fire phone number, 10 phones ring in houses around town, then the MRTI picks it up and transmits the ring out on the radios so we can answer our phone from any dept radio. almost all of our equipement is Motorola. pagers are Keynote or Minitor II. our radios are mainly GP300's, and SP50's 2 of us have MT1000's and the chief bought his own P1225.

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