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    I thought this was funny.

    "Ahhh dispatch we will be delayed. There seems to be a house in the road."

    06/22/04 - Posted from the Daily Record newsroom

    Authorities attempt to detour traffic around a house stuck on Meyersville Road in Chatham Twp. after the truck transporting it broke an axle Tuesday. Bob Karp / Daily Record

    Mired on Meyersville Road
    Chatham Twp. residents livid over loss of trees

    By Elisabeth Salamme, Daily Record

    CHATHAM TWP. -- A four-bedroom brick Colonial being moved from No. 7 to No. 58 Meyersville Road is mired in the middle of the street -- and likely will stay there until Thursday -- after an axle on the truck moving the house broke before dawn Tuesday.

    Meanwhile, Meyersville Road residents are furious with Craig Rieck, the owner of the now-homeless home, who cut down more than a dozen trees and countless limbs and branches in order to move the house.

    Meyersville Road is owned by Morris County and, therefore, trees along the road are under county jurisdiction. Morris County shade tree commission administrator Patric Hyland said Tuesday that no permission was given to remove entire trees along Meyersville Road -- but merely three branches on one specific tree.

    Homeowners also say they were never notified that their trees would be removed.

    Rieck was given permission only "to remove three branches over 48 Meyersville Road Ö to be properly pruned by a qualified tree person," according to an agreement signed by Hyland and Rieck in August 2003.

    The agreement also required that the homeowner be satisfied with the results and any additional work required as a result of that particular pruning would be Rieck's responsibility. Hyland said Rieck was not permitted to remove any additional branches, let alone entire trees.

    But Rieck told a reporter Tuesday morning he had permission to remove any trees within 25 feet of the center of Meyersville Road that blocked the house's path from one lot to another. Rieck said he had a permit, but was too busy to retrieve it from inside his home.

    "I didn't think we would have to move all the trees we had to remove," Rieck said, standing beside the stranded Colonial. "Until you get the house in the street, you don't know how big it will be. We were not expecting to remove the power or trim the trees this much."

    Rieck said a new axle for the truck is expected to arrive by Thursday.

    Rieck currently lives in another home on Meyersville Road. He plans to sell that home and move with his family into the currently truck-bound house, once it completes its interrupted journey.

    Rieck reportedly sold the property on which the house first stood for $3.2 million. Plans now call for three houses to be built on the home's former plot.

    Ruth Connors lives at 48 Meyersville Road -- the residence from which Rieck was permitted to remove three branches. Another branch was removed Tuesday morning from one of her trees and she is not happy with the results.

    "The fact is that he has mutilated this vegetation," Connors said.

    Neighbors also are angry that they were given no warning by the Riecks that any trees would be chopped down to clear a larger path for the traveling house.

    "I can't believe they didn't hold any forums or hearings for the neighbors," Connors said. "In the beginning, I was all in favor of them moving the house, but I had no idea what I was in favor of."

    The Reicks distributed a flier to all Meyersville Road residents Saturday, informing them the house would be moved beginning at 8:30 a.m. Monday and that power would be disconnected and reconnected as the house passed by. Residents were told that their telephone lines would remain connected.

    "Please check with police to see which way to go around the barricades to access your driveway as the house progresses down Meyersville Road," the flier read.

    However, many Meyersville Road residents lost both power and phone beginning at 9 a.m. Monday. While power has been restored at some homes, it had not been restored at others by Tuesday night.

    Fran Eber, who also lives on Meyersville Road, was so upset Monday morning when she found out her trees were to be cut down that she stood in front of them -- at one point, threatening to chain her body to the 150-year-old trees -- to block the tree surgeons' path.

    Eber said Tuesday that, as she stood in front of one tree, she asked Chatham Township police officer Robert Curtis if she could see Rieck's permit to remove the trees. Curtis did not provide her with a permit, she said, but "kept trying to make deals with me."

    Eber said that, eventually, Curtis told her Rieck would pay her $1,500 if she would allow him to remove one tree. Believing the tree would be removed anyway, she accepted a check from Rieck.

    "Now I'll use that money to hire a lawyer for a class-action suit," Eber said Tuesday. "This guy (Rieck) should go to jail. I don't want monetary compensation."

    Curtis was off-duty Tuesday and could not be reached for comment.

    "It's gut-wrenching," Eber said. "It's like you don't even own your own property. Who gives him (Rieck) the right to chop down everybody's trees?"

    Some neighbors arrived home Tuesday to the shock that their stately trees had been viciously pruned. Arthur Sutton, 87, came home with his daughter and her husband, who said they were livid over the removal of the branches.

    "It looks like a storm hit," said Bob Conklin, Sutton's son-in-law. "This looks like it's all about greed."

    Morris County Counsel Ron Kevitz is investigating the matter. He could not say Tuesday whether Rieck would face any penalties or fines for removing trees along a county road without a permit.

    Eber and her neighbors said they are planning to sue Rieck for the property damage.

    "From the very onset, this whole thing is shady and it reeks of impropriety," Eber said.


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    From the very onset, this whole thing is shady ........
    This guy has a great sense of humor.

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    Originally posted by KyleWickman Morris County shade tree commission administrator Patric Hyland said Tuesday that no permission was given to remove entire trees along Meyersville Road -- but merely three branches on one specific tree.
    Shade tree commission administrator? What the hell. They have a commission on shade trees... and an administrator of shade trees? I didn't think a "shade tree" was an actual thing, just a way of describing a big tree in a front yard? This must be a Jersey thing?
    Even the burger-flippers at McDonald's probably have some McWackers.

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    "I didn't think we would have to move all the trees we had to remove," Rieck said, standing beside the stranded Colonial. "Until you get the house in the street, you don't know how big it will be. We were not expecting to remove the power or trim the trees this much."

    WTF, the guy never heard of a tape measure? Maybe even tacking some 2x4 together on a truck and taking a test run? Figuring out how to move large objects isn't rocket science. Figuring out how to comply with laws ain't either.

    Sounds like an self-absorbed @sshole to me.

    By the way NMFire...
    Connecticut's versions are Tree Wardens. Your town like every other one in CT has them, some places even public shade tree commissions.

    Some selections from CT Statutes:


    Sec. 7-148. Scope of municipal powers.
    (v) Provide for the planting, rearing and preserving of shade and ornamental trees on the streets and public grounds

    Sec. 7-131. Municipal forests.
    (d) The legislative body of any town, city or borough may vote to assign to its forest commission or, in the absence of a forest commission, to a shade tree commission, to be constituted and appointed in the manner provided for in subsection (b) for a forest commission, the supervision of public shade trees within such town, city or borough not under the supervision of the Commissioner of Transportation including the appointment of the town tree warden and the supervision of his work.

    Sec. 23-58. Tree wardens; appointment; compensation; supervision. The selectmen of each town...and the warden or burgesses of each borough shall, within thirty days of their election, appoint a town or borough tree warden, as the case may be. Such tree wardens shall be appointed for the term of one year and until their successors are appointed and have qualified. Any tree warden may appoint such number of deputy tree wardens as he deems expedient and he may, at any time, remove them from office. A town or borough tree warden and his deputies shall receive for their services such reasonable compensation, from the town or borough, as the town or borough may determine or, in default of such determination, as the selectmen or borough warden prescribes.

    Sec. 23-59. Powers and duties of wardens. The town or borough tree warden shall have the care and control of all trees and shrubs in whole or in part within the limits of any public road or grounds and within the limits of his town or borough, except those along state highways under the control of the Commissioner of Transportation and except those in public parks or grounds which are under the jurisdiction of park commissioners, and of these the tree warden shall take the care and control if so requested in writing by the park commissioners. Such care and control shall extend to such limbs, roots or parts of trees and shrubs as extend or overhang the limits of any such public road or grounds. The tree warden shall expend all funds appropriated for the setting out, care and maintenance of such trees and shrubs. The tree warden shall enforce all provisions of law for the preservation of such trees and shrubs and of roadside beauty. The tree warden shall remove or cause to be removed all illegally erected signs or advertisements, placed upon poles, trees or other objects within any public road or place under the tree warden's jurisdiction. The tree warden may prescribe such regulations for the care and preservation of such trees and shrubs as the tree warden deems expedient and may provide therein for a reasonable fine for the violation of such regulations; and such regulations, when approved by the selectmen or borough warden and posted on a public signpost in the town or borough, if any, or at some other exterior place near the office of the town or borough clerk, shall have the force and effect of town or borough ordinances. Whenever, in the opinion of the tree warden, the public safety demands the removal or pruning of any tree or shrub under the tree warden's control, the tree warden may cause such tree or shrub to be removed or pruned at the expense of the town or borough and the selectmen or borough warden shall order paid to the person performing such work such reasonable compensation therefor as may be determined and approved in writing by the tree warden. Unless the condition of such tree or shrub constitutes an immediate public hazard, the tree warden shall, at least ten days before such removal or pruning, post thereon a suitable notice stating the tree warden's intention to remove or prune such tree or shrub. If any person, firm or corporation objects to such removal or pruning, such person, firm or corporation may appeal to the tree warden in writing, who shall hold a public hearing at some suitable time and place after giving reasonable notice of such hearing to all persons known to be interested therein and posting a notice thereof on such tree or shrub. Within three days after such hearing, the tree warden shall render a decision granting or denying the application, and the party aggrieved by such decision may, within ten days, appeal therefrom to the superior court for the judicial district within which such town or borough is located. The tree warden may, with the approval of the selectmen or borough warden, remove any trees or other plants within the limits of public highways or grounds under the tree warden's jurisdiction that are particularly obnoxious as hosts of insect or fungus pests.

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    Default Re: Re: "We will be delayed"

    Originally posted by nmfire

    Shade tree commission administrator? What the hell. They have a commission on shade trees... and an administrator of shade trees? I didn't think a "shade tree" was an actual thing, just a way of describing a big tree in a front yard? This must be a Jersey thing?
    nmfire -- it's NJ, if there is a beaurocratic (sp?) office to be had it is here!

    I've been reading this for the the last day or so since it happened and the two things that get me are this: The one article claimed he measured repeatedly. My question is "WITH WHAT????" The other thing that gets me even more is that he hired someone to do this move and they couldn't measure right either!

    As you can imagine the words sue and lawsuit are quite prevelant in this mornings update.

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    Originally posted by KyleWickman

    Eber said that, eventually, Curtis told her Rieck would pay her $1,500 if she would allow him to remove one tree. Believing the tree would be removed anyway, she accepted a check from Rieck.
    I thought that was the best part there. Even if she denied the "bribe", he would probably cut it down anyway. If your going to lose the tree regardless, you might as well make a buck on the deal.
    Even the burger-flippers at McDonald's probably have some McWackers.

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    The Shade Tree Commission is just one of those organizations created by really-really rich people so that they can say they are a member of something; or be controlling of other peoples land in a zoned community. Trust me, it seems to be a common site in New Jersey, Pennsylvania, DC, Maryland, and Virginia. Why? All the government employees vacation here, they have little towns set aside where there is an association for everything. Where is the center point for all of this? Eagles Mere, Pennsylvania... The town was owned by Joseph Priestly, the man who discovered oxygen. Started out as one of the ONLY glass factory towns in PA, and soon became a resort community more popular than the Poconos. It was often that residents seen Eagles flying over this natural Lake, which is the highest populated loctaion in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. Eagles Mere literally means Lake of the Eagle. It had 11 huge... HUGE grand Hotels, hotels that would make the Titanic look like the Motor Inn. Presidents, world leaders vacationed here during the summers; It had a casino, it's own railroad, a steam boat on the lake; the only town in North Eastern PA that wasn't clear cut for lumber. So it had 200-300 ++ year old elm, oak, maple, pine, and shade trees lining the streets... It is declared "Tree City, USA" by the Shade Tree Commission. They have an association for nearly everything here, beaches, recreation, skiing, hiking, streets, safety; persons governing how many people can stay at a cottage, what kind of TV service you can have, how to, when, how often, and what time to mow your lawn. It's their own little perfect world. This place is perfect, and they don't even have a Walgreens

    That happened to our town, we had 200 year old Oak trees lining the streets. Proctor & Gamble Corp. decided they wanted to truck a huge paper dryer in b/c the railroad bridge couldn't take the weight. So they come in and tell us its going to happen; and we can't do anything about it b/c they have a DOT permit that states anything with in 15 feet of the road shoulder is considered DOT Property by imminent domain. Removed all of our cable, phone, and electric services for over six hours with no specific shut off time given; cut down our oak trees, severely mutilated others; left the streets a mess-broke our two of our traffic lights due to lack of planning. All that was left for the town to clean up and pay for. Now of course when someone threatened about lawyers, P&G paid for any damages caused, but they should have at least talked with town leaders along their route, gave them an agenda. They didn't even come on the day it was planned for. They said "Plans may effect low-hanging wires and branches, these will be removed as necessary". No mention of cutting the trees down. Of course due to sheer size, it would have been impossible for it to make its journey with out them being removed. But maybe its for the best, one of those huge trees fell down last month and went through the roof and second story of a home, and displaced its foundation. Anyhoo, the shade tree commission from Eagles Mere offered tips to replace portions of side walks with brick pavers, and plant beautiful pink and white budded shade trees and add benches. So most of the town looks better now, old buildings are safe from tree hazards. There is always two sides to community battles. Of course if that guy cut my trees with out permission, I'd prolly sue him too! Professional wood working companies pay thousands to remove your old oak and hemlock trees to build furniture and homes! Just look at home much they pay for drift wood logs that float in rivers for 20 years... Old wood is precious for hand carved furniture and wainscoating.
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