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    Unhappy Appartus acidents

    Exclusive Video of FDNY accident on ABC tv and on there web site.
    Pembroke Pines also involved with a crash with fatalities.Those are just the last 2 days, What can be done to reduce these accidents?
    How often do we refresh our EVOC class?How often should we refresh EVOC training? What else can be done? What is your departments policy about going through a red light with lights and siren?
    Last edited by kjohn23; 07-12-2004 at 09:56 AM.

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    From JEMS.com, an NFPA study:

    Sobering Statistics
    Vehicle crashes cause more firefighter deaths than fires, NFPA study finds; Last year more died in on-duty crashes than any year since 1977

    June 9, 2004 - Firefighters are more likely to die traveling to or from a fire than fighting one, and motor vehicles pose a greater hazard than flames, according to new data from the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA). All told, 105 firefighters died while on duty in 2003, up from 97 in 2002, primarily because of last year's bad wildland-fire season.

    Last year, 37 firefighters died while responding to or returning from alarms, while 29 died on the “fire ground” - the land or building where a fire occurs.

    NFPA has developed two standards to help fire departments establish safe-driving programs: NFPA 1002, Standard on Fire Apparatus Driver/Operator Professional Qualifications and NFPA 1451, Standard for a Fire Service Vehicle Operations Training Program.


    Sad facts, but quite true. Every firefighter needs to step back and review their driving habits. Come to a complete stop at red traffic lights. Those kids listening to the 500 watt, 10 speaker stereo system...can not hear your sirens....and aren't paying attention to your red lights.

    Join the discussion in these forums! Firefighters and the public are dying in these incidents.

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    We gotta Stay alert out there and use proper audible and light signals some of the best out there are The Fed Q and Airhorns those usually get ppls attention pretty fast and also im seeing it more and more kids putting these big stereo systems in there cars which drown out the sounds our polocy for red lights and stop signs is to use siren at lest 200 ft away and keep usin it while u roll up on intersection at this time u should be goin about 10 to 15 MPH ready to stop make sure everyone sees you then proceed note takedown lights work good for at night shine them near car so you can see occupant because generally the light gets there Attn and like i said officer/passenger "Shotgun" as we call it should be an extra set of eyes for the Engineer but like i said the best way to prevent this stuff is to use your Lights and dont be shy with the Sirens there was an article in the magazine a couple monts ago about police and fire/rescue personnel not uusin sirens enough.
    And remeber you cant help anyone if you dont get there and its the engineers job to get you guys there and back safely.

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    Not sure about the FDNY incident, but the one in south FL the civi ran a red light. Not sure we can fix that

    But in general, may I suggest, SLOW DOWN!!!


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