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    Default best non-turnout gear jacket, and where to put the striping

    I know this probably belongs more in the EMS section, but with all the EMS calls we are running, it might be appropirate here too. that and while I'll get 4 responses in the EMS section, I'm hoping for more here.

    What is the best type of jacket to buy for FD or EMS work? I recently bought a Blauer 9300z All weather jacket, because when I was in syracuse (upstate NY), all the Paramedics and FFs wore them because they were so warm. The only addition I'm doing is having reflective striping sewn on around the chest and back, so I am more visible. I'm also putting velcro on the shoulders for a NJ/NY EMT patch or US flag, or whichever of the 4 organizations I belong to I happen to be riding with that day.

    edited to add: Also, how much did the jacket cost?
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    My favorite is this one. Comfortable and warm.

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    Originally posted by WTFD10
    My favorite is this one. Comfortable and warm.

    http://www.dickiesonline.com/p3494test.html
    That one brings back memories. We used to issue those coats to the inmates at the prison where I worked. We'd get them in by the boxload and spend a day with stencils and spray paint putting the prisons initials on the back of the coat before handing them out.

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    I second the Dickies Chore coat. I bought one last fall and love it. I put our department patch on the left arm and company patch on the right. Department initials(CFD) over the left front pocket and last name over the right pocket.

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    I have a Blauer that is issued to us. I'll have to look and see what model it is, but it has reflective striping and the pull down reflective panels in the back and front........

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    O.K. - it was bound to happen so I may as well be the one to do it.

    [insert red lights & warning sirens here]

    What about NFPA & OSHA "guidelines" ??

    I only ask because I am in the midst of helping my G/F get some EMS gear to use for her Paramedic Program.

    In order to be "compliant" whatever gear you get should have a Moisture barrier for BBP's.

    w/o going into great detail, we looked at & tried on every set of NFPA 1999 (Standard on Protective Clothing for Emergency Medical Operations) gear that was there and talked to all the sales rep's and brought home & read all the literature.

    After discussing the various Pro's & Con's as well as what fit & felt best - She has opted for the Globe Lifeline EMS Gear (the coat not the jacket).

    http://www.globefiresuits.com/lifeline

    And to be quite honest (after having worn several different brands of TOG over the years), I kind of like it myself.

    Not to be overly Brand pushy - I'll simply say that if you want to look at EMS wear - just Google for NFPA 1999 and I'm sure you'll find all the info for any major Mfg. you like.

    If you're not concerned about the Moisture barrier & BBP protection, I've never really heard bad stuff about Dickies or Carhart clothing.

    As always - it's your $$ and your body so buy what suits you and not what we tell you to.
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    Does this NFPA standard want us to wear one of these suits on every EMS call? I can't really see wearing it while working an MI in somebody's living room. I'm sure Globe and the other manufacturers are all for this though.

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    n2D, it looks really nice, how much was it?
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    I have used the Chicago style 911 Jackets ..........I love it.



    Hip-length waterproof breathable EMS jacket made of Xaltª Plus Supplex¨ Supreme outer shell.

    Four-pocket front, double storm placket and telescopic collar.

    Athletic cut sleeve and 2" Silver Scotchliteª Reflective package.

    Xaltª Plus Supplex¨ Supreme fabric, waterproof/breathable.

    NFPA 1999, 1997 edition certified to stop blood borne pathogens.

    Tested and Classified by Underwriters Laboratories.

    Removable Thinslateª quilted liner. 200-gram body and 100-gram sleeves.

    Large, two-way cargo pockets with tool holders and flap closures.

    Cargo pockets on both chests with flap closures.

    Microphone tabs on both shoulders.

    Adjustable Velcro¨ cuffs.

    Elasticized drawstring waistband.
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    Originally posted by DrParasite
    n2D, it looks really nice, how much was it?
    Dunno yet *L* All they had @ Baltimore was List Price (which no one sells at) so I didn't even bother to get them.

    Just got her fitted last night. Am expecting the quote via Fax today. Will post back as soon as I get it.
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    Code Blue in the Forums - Repeat Code Blue in the forums - Man Down !!!

    O.K. - I'll be honest - I was expecting this stuff to be "Not Cheap" but Holy Begeezus !!!

    Globe EMS Coat (C2600X) - Large $432.00
    - Star of Life on Front
    - American Flag
    - I/D Acc & Velcro Strip w/ name
    - Pen/Pencil Pocket
    - Mic Strap for Radio Pocket

    EMS Parka Hood $28.00

    EMS Fleece Coat Liner $60.00

    Globe EMS Pants (P2600) - Large $315.00
    - Kevlar Belt
    - Belt Loops
    - Suspenders
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    Exclamation OMG ..............CHARGING........ ...........

    CLEAR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Originally posted by N2DFire
    Code Blue in the Forums - Repeat Code Blue in the forums - Man Down !!!

    O.K. - I'll be honest - I was expecting this stuff to be "Not Cheap" but Holy Begeezus !!!

    Globe EMS Coat (C2600X) - Large $432.00
    - Star of Life on Front
    - American Flag
    - I/D Acc & Velcro Strip w/ name
    - Pen/Pencil Pocket
    - Mic Strap for Radio Pocket

    EMS Parka Hood $28.00

    EMS Fleece Coat Liner $60.00

    Globe EMS Pants (P2600) - Large $315.00
    - Kevlar Belt
    - Belt Loops
    - Suspenders
    I hope for your sake that's a DNR there.......

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    Originally posted by firenresq77
    I hope for your sake that's a DNR there.......
    DNR....I only hope that it's buy one get one free for that price!!

    Seriously though...N2- do you like the jacket?
    Once again....the above views are my own and not that of my department. (And probably should not be construed as having any real meaning, whatsoever!)

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    This Blauer EMS Jacket that we have, has it all. Polortec liner that can be taken out and worn by itself. Very warm in the winter, have used it several time in below zero temps. Reflective shell, patches can be put on. Its not bulky, all kinds of pockets. Here is the info from the dist.

    -High-visibility three-layer CROSSTECH® fabric is also certified to pass ASTM F903 standards for common chemical resistance
    -NFPA 1999, 1997 Edition compliant for resistance to blood and bodily fluids
    -Zipper-access interior security pockets
    -Zippered openings on shoulder patches for emblems
    -Waterproof side zippers for unrestricted access to equipment
    -Navy blue w/reflective yellow trim
    -Imported

    http://www.blauer.com/bl_productlist...&parentlevel=2
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    Check out: http://www.spiewak.com/uniform/item....78V&Cat_ID=UNI

    This is a available in stomache churning safety yellow or orange. But, at least cars can see you (eliminates the need for a traffic vest). There is also a zip in liner. The combination is good for any weather she is likely to ever see. Please note that the yellow does show dirt and blood which isn't necessarily bad.

    S578V - VizGuard System Public Safety Rainwear
    The VizGuard Systems Jacket combines the professional look and extreme protection of a Spiewak Systems Jacket with the high visibility of our VizGuard safety apparel. The Viz-Max High Visibility fabric complies with the ANSI-107 1999 standards, and 360 degrees of 3M Scotchlite reflective material combine for maximum visibility. (ANSI 107-Class III).
    Wind and waterproof taped seams, combined with a stormproof snap fly over a two-way Delrin to-the-neck zipper provides maximum all-weather protection. Articulated Outdoor Performance Sleeves with adjustable snaps and elastic closure provide freedom of movement.

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    Originally posted by FightingDevil


    DNR....I only hope that it's buy one get one free for that price!!

    Seriously though...N2- do you like the jacket?
    Yea - me too I mean really Galls has true bunker pants for $399 (and we all know Gall's ain't the cheapest place to shop).

    Now I will toss in a couple of Disclaimers:
    1) As I mentioned before this is for my G/F and not me so I have not actually tried on a set (after all I have TOG)

    2) I DO NOT work for Globe nor any parent or subsidiary thereof nor do I benefit in any way shape or form from the sale of it's products.


    Now - from all the hands-on handling of this specific coat & my Hx with Globe gear - Yes I do like it. It is extremely lightweight compared to TOG and for the vast majority of EMS only folks - I think this is a good alternative. I'd like to see a nomex / kevlar blend outer shell for more durability, but that's just a "me" thing. The nomex shell on this gear should be just as "durable" as nomex TOG.

    If I was not on a FD and didn't need/have TOG for use around MVA's and such - I would have a set of this gear (or maybe the USAR Gear that globe also sells depending on who was paying for it ).

    One of the features that both I & my G/F really liked was the coat is "split" along both sides with a zipper that will allow you to get to items on your belt w/o having to raise & fight w/ the entire side or opening the coat.
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