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    Default SCBAs, your favorite features

    Just some SCBA dicussion since things seem slow and since I am a technology nerd.

    What are your favorite features of various SCBAs?

    Integrated regulator (IE Viking or Interspiro) or dockable unit (IE Scott or Drager)?

    Or a hybrid, like the cairns or the belt mounted regulator with elephant hose?

    Drager style bottle hook up or MSA style?

    Or is the NXG2 the wave of the future, quick connect?

    Wired or wireless hud?

    Digital or analog pressure gauge?

    30, 45, or 60 minute bottles?

    What is the best facepiece?

    Are metal backplates worth the weight penalty or are composite/plastic units fit for duty?
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    Wired or wireless hud?
    How about NO HUD? I know our call volume will hardly qualify me as an expert, but we've had HUD equipped units for about a year now and I still can't see where it adds to my safety one bit.

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    I too question the effectiveness of a 4 light LED hud. We have only had one working live fire since our Drager PSS100s came in and I didnt even see the lights then.

    We have dont a fair amount of smoke training in our old training house. I found that I rarely paid atention to the LEDs.

    I guess I am in the habit of looking at the gauge, and sometimes in the worse habit of not paying atention to my air until the low air alarm goes off.
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    SCBA Favorite feature? Air. The rest is just bells and whistles.
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    SCBA Favorite feature? Air. The rest is just bells and whistles.
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    Originally posted by Bones42
    SCBA Favorite feature? Air. The rest is just bells and whistles.
    Damn! I saw this topic and I was going to put that as my favorite feature...

    But I'll agree, that is my favorite feature.
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    Besides air DAMNIT!!!!

    Geeezzzze, you guys sure know how to waste a perfectly good topic.

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    Voice amp on our AP50 so you don't have to yell.

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    Besides air DAMNIT!!!!

    Geeezzzze, you guys sure know how to waste a perfectly good topic.
    Ok- how about a harnes to keep it attached to me and to keep it all together! (I too was gonna put "air" when I saw this thread )
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    AIR !!!!!!!!! LOL ...............that is a bonus ....... I do like the lightweight MSA MMR unit we have ..........tried on an NGX2 last night ...........kinda bulky with the 45 min bottle and lots of bells and lights ..........green ones and blue ones and red ones .....WOW .also that HUD is kinda dorky......cant anyone look at the gauge ?
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    Default Scotts...

    I dont know if someone mentioned it or not, but I love most
    of the features of the Scotts. I most like the face piece
    that lets you don it and walk around and/or transmit on a
    radio clearly.

    You can the plug in and breath when you need to and d/c
    when done. This picture kinda demos what I am talking about...

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    I have been pretty happy with our Scott 4.5s....... Much better than the old belt mounted regulater MSAs and Scotts we had before...... The 45 min bottles are a little too bulky for my liking (I would have rather gotten the 30 mins), but it's still lighter than our old steel bottles. As for the NGX2s, well I saw one at a seminar, but I haven't been able to play with one yet........

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    Besides air?

    I think I'll go with voice amplifiers
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    Default Yo...

    Hey Adze- How do you wear the SCBA mask with the bag?
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    Default Re: Yo...

    Originally posted by CALFFBOU
    Hey Adze- How do you wear the SCAB mask with the bag?
    Ouch....I know you are paid and I am not, but do you have to call me a SCAB?!?!? LOL


    Now, if you are asking how I wear an SCBA, I might just be able to tell you...

    ...I put the bag over the mask...currently developing an integrated bag/mask combo...
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    Automatic Distress Signal Unit (DSU) on the PSS100's we use. That and the computer caluclated time to whistle.
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    How about a RIT connection.
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    Default Re: Re: Yo...

    Originally posted by Adze39


    Ouch....I know you are paid and I am not, but do you have to call me a SCAB?!?!? LOL


    Now, if you are asking how I wear an SCBA, I might just be able to tell you...

    ...I put the bag over the mask...currently developing an integrated bag/mask combo...

    Ouch! I AM SOO SORRY BRO! That was a MAJOR typo, my bad!
    I went back and edited it. I meant SCBA. Wow, what damage
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    Ok, so I am not one of those who is going to say air, but I do wholeheartedly believe it is the harness, particularly the straps. Anyone who has needed to bail out quick or be pulled out of the building, or even done RIT training can tell you that the harness can transform into a life saving object. I particularly like the Scott's, with the old style non padded straps, as they are much easier to fumble with in a 0 visibiility environment.

    What I can tell you is what I hate about all new packs- safety or not, i HATE the integrated pass alarms. Nothing worse that dropping the pack at a scene and not knowing the pass is still activated. Actually, I can think of one thing worse- walking into the apparatus bay and hearing one activated on the truck.

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    Originally posted by Bones42
    SCBA Favorite feature? Air. The rest is just bells and whistles.
    Damn!....You stole my thunder....
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    Shopping for 12x high pressure SCBA (fire grant $).

    Anyone using Scott got the SEMS or their integrated Communications systems? Comments on how they work (and what the option cost you)?

    Same questions on MSA comms units. Feedback on how they work?

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    I love scott SCBA's My favorite features are the buddy hookup, integrated pass, and the Heads up display on the newer models.
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    Originally posted by CaptainMikey
    I love scott SCBA's My favorite features are the buddy hookup, integrated pass, and the Heads up display on the newer models.
    Talk about a safety junkie....


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    With all the talk about HUD, integrated PASS, etc., I'll say that my favorite feature is extremely low-tech. It's a chest strap. I believe that only MSA comes standard with them. It may be an option on others. On many brands you just can't get 'em. In my experience, I have used several different brands and models and I truly believe that the chest strap reduces fatigue by keeping the shoulder straps from slipping down and constantly pulling your shoulders back. Next time you're packed up notice how often you shrug your shoulders to hike your pack back up and you'll see what I mean. Every time I meet a rep from an SCBA company I gripe about the lack of a chest strap on most brands. Am I the only person who feels this way? Or am I just nitpicking? Anyone else agree with this?

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    I do agree, the chest straps would be nice on the scotts.

    I just got 2 voice amps, I use it for my construction job. We have av3000 face pieces with the respirator cans. Got a pretty darn good eal on them, used. Half off the entire lot. I use it while painting, and use it while training and riding.


    I forgot one other thing, the scotts have their bells to tell you when your getting low, and the regulator vibrates. I used an ISI once, it did not vibrate, just whistled. Sometimes you didnt know who was low.
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