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    Ok Stretch, I'm really curious now...exactly what would someone do to deserve having a gun shown to him like that?
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    I think you misunderstood me Bones, let me try again.
    The gun thing was flat out wrong, there's no two ways about it. What I meant about brought it on himself was that for someone to do something that stupid, there must be more to it than we know. As for the other stuff, No I don't think they went too far, but that's just me. Everyday I come to work, besides the firefighting hazards, I know that any day I will probably end up wet, covered in flour and syrup, get the cold water shut off on me in the shower and who knows what else.

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    Out of all the "rules" ive herd about pranks, there are two key rules that I havent herd yet...

    1. What happens at the station STAYS at the station!
    2. Always remember, what goes around COMES around!

    Just my two cents if it is worth that much to any one.......

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    The sooner the Fire Service stops acting like a frigging FRAT HOUSE the better.

    If you cant see that then you cant see nothing.

    When I catch senior FFs acting like Juviniles and hazing rookies that I had to spend many hours recruiting to volunteer as FFs I get Damn Mad.

    I have even went so far as to offer to beat some manners and maturity into some of the moron FFs that think its fun to haze a rookie to shame. They decided they didnt want the lesson and the hazing stopped.

    I tell the rookies that join up "Dont take crap off of anybody." If you are man enought to volunteer to fight fire then you deserve a measure of respect. Then I tell them "Dont be cocky, listen, learn, and give 110%."

    If some jack asses went so far as to drag them naked through the firehall then I would hold the dumb SOB down while the rookie settles the score.

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    Casieri was taking a shower in the evening when someone...

    1: threw two packages of firecrackers into the shower stall with him, according to the statement.

    2: He said a pan of cold water was thrown on him, followed by two boxes of baking soda.

    3: Powell took pictures of the incident with a disposable camera, the statement said. Casieri said he grabbed a towel to cover himself when he realized he was being photographed.

    4: As he tried to wipe his eyes, Casieri said Roseman took the towel from him. He said he then slipped and fell to the floor and Roseman grabbed his ankles and dragged him, naked and on his back, about 25 feet through the bedroom, according to the statement.

    The answer for all of this was... the captain replied, "What, you never joked around?" according to the statement.

    Then the thing that really gets me is...
    On another occasion, a co-worker drove up next to Casieri, tapped on the window and pointed a handgun in his face and then placed the gun on the passengers seat,

    And this is all just a practical joke that went out of control.
    This is in no way a typical "firehouse practical joke" (and I have been on both the recieving and giving ends of many)

    This is way beyond "hazing".

    This can be construed as sexual harrassment.
    This can be construed as a death threat.

    This crap cannot be tolerated...

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    Originally posted by CaptainGonzo


    This is in no way a typical "firehouse practical joke" (and I have been on both the recieving and giving ends of many)

    This is way beyond "hazing".

    This can be construed as sexual harrassment.
    This can be construed as a death threat.

    This crap cannot be tolerated...

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    I don't know what your laws are over there in the US and other countries on this thread, but over here in Oz, it is a dismissable offence to undertake this sort of stuff in the workplace.

    Why is it acceptable to the fire service? I don't go to my workplace expecting to be hazed or to wear the brunt of someones practical joke...
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    No no one got hurt

    So I guess we don't do anything until someone gets hurt?

    This is REALLY bad behavior. It needs a REALLY strong response.
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    Norfolk, Virginia Firefighter Injured By What Was Intended To Be A Prank


    MATTHEW ROY
    Courtesy of The Virginian-Pilot

    NORFOLK — A firefighter who was sent to the hospital Monday evening was the victim of a firehouse prank gone wrong, according to a department spokesman.

    The prank involved the use of compressed air to blast flour through a tube, said Capt. Garry Windley . The firefighter was injured when the tube blew apart as he held it.

    He was “not the one the flour was intended for,” Windley said.

    The firefighter was admitted to a hospital for treatment and was released Tuesday evening. Details of his injuries could not be disclosed because of federal law, Windley said.

    The incident happened about 5 p.m. Monday at a fire station on Norview Avenue.

    At least one neighbor at an apartment complex just behind the station heard what sounded like an explosion. The woman looked out the window of and saw a white substance wafting in the air. In an area behind the station, she saw men covered in powder.

    She saw an ambulance take somebody away.

    Windley said the incident is under investigation by a safety officer and arson investigators. More department staff must be interviewed, including the injured firefighter, he said.

    Asked whether disciplinary action was possible, he said nothing had been determined.

    “Once we get all the facts and have all the stuff in front of the chief, we’d have to look at if any policies or procedures were violated,” he said.
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    Well at least his heart was in the right place. It's the thought that counts. If you're gonna play, be ready to pay. I hate to see what's gonna happen to him, but that's the price we pay. We once had a station get some funnels and put a bunch of flour into the air vents of a cop car (who was using the restroom), then set his AC to high. When he got in and started his car...POOF

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