Any pros or cons on TNT tools? Any feedback would be appreciated. Thinking about a combo tool but may get 2 tools (spreader and cutter) and power unit. Looks like a good tool and good service from dealer.
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08-25-2004, 10:33 AM #1
TNT Tools"Illegitimis non carborundum."
- Gen. Joseph Stilwell
(Lat., "Don't let the *~#%&S grind you down.")
08-25-2004, 12:56 PM #2
1. We have them... cutters, spreaders, mini-cutter, airbags, etc and love them.
2. check the Univ. of Extrication forum and do a search. This has been discussed b4
08-30-2004, 12:16 PM #3
Stick with the Basics
Stay with the simple tools, or as we say "Keep it simple stupid"
Our TNT Tool is in the storage room were it belongs. Way to short and heavy for any pratical use.Jason
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08-30-2004, 03:11 PM #4
BFD - keep it simple and read the post... although posted in the wrong area, the poster was referring to TNT extrication tools
Thinking about a combo tool but may get 2 tools (spreader and cutter) and power unit.
08-30-2004, 04:38 PM #5
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08-30-2004, 05:10 PM #6Originally posted by FFTrainer
that beats the ****** out of your wrist when you hit something and get the hook portion jambed into you - that item can stay in the store room like you suggested.
08-30-2004, 06:25 PM #7
I wondered who would be the first to post about the hand tool.........
08-31-2004, 01:42 PM #8
I used the TNT tools during a demo and my crew tore 2 vans down to the frames. They were brand new tools, never used, we had no problems or breakage, despite abusing them a bit-at the request of the demonstator. I have always used Hurst through my career dept and the reserve ARFF unit, but I was impressed by the TNT tools. Had a chance to play with Amkus and Holmatro before, didn't care for them at all.
Agreed on the TNT hand tool-hated it!
08-31-2004, 02:46 PM #9
Well the topic DOES say TNT tools lol. Myself and LT use them on just about every fire we make. We have three different sizes, the medium one is just about right to do everything, from pulling ceiling to forcing entry. I love them.
09-01-2004, 10:06 AM #10
Not thread related but I like the TNT tool,hand version.I can take one tool and breach my way out of almost anything.I also like the TNT rescue tools.But then again I'm pretty fond of anything that makes my life easier.T.C.
09-05-2004, 12:22 PM #11
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TNTs are excellant tools, buy a spreader, cutter with a simu pump. Then get a combi tool.
09-05-2004, 01:43 PM #12
I used to think Hurst was the ticket, but grab a set of
Holomatro and youre sold. Very strong and light weight.
My FD has Hurst and they seem to leak most of the time.
09-06-2004, 01:18 PM #13
We used the TNT Tools here and have been nothing short of impressed with their performance. They are alot lighter than the Hurst tools and run at a higher PSI. Lighter and stronger, hmmm, sounds like a no brainer.
07-06-2006, 07:08 PM #14
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- Jun 2006
At my former volunteer department, where I was Assistant Chief, I was tasked with finding the "best all-around" rescue tools. We had dealer demos from Hurst, TNT, Champion, Holmatro, and Phoenix. After a day in the local auto salvage yard with a couple of my firefighters, our top choice was Champion, with TNT coming in a close second place. Depending on the model, TNT tools are much lighter or about the same as far as weight is concerned. There smaller version of the spreader packs the same punch, with half the weight of your normal run of the mill Hurst spreader. It made for a much quicker door pop, just because of the manueverability of the lightweight tool. My opinion of combination tools is not one that you would want to hear if you are restricted to buying only a combi-tool. They are underpowered pieces of **** that will quit on you when you need them the most. You'll have to be very creative at times to accomplish your mission. We did test combi-tools on our "junkyard adventure," and if my budget restricted me to buying one, I would highly recommend that you look into Phoenix Rescue. Their combi-tool is a spreader with a scissor-like cutter in the middle that runs the entire length. Worked extremely well when cutting wide "C" posts during roof removals. If you are able to buy the seperate tools, I would highly recommend that you look into Champion Rescue tools. They have a lifetime free replacement warranty for as long as your department owns the tool. We ended up buying the Champion tools at my former department. I sheared a pin off that holds the cutting blade onto the tool at 4pm on a Friday afternoon. My new tool was personally delivered to me at 7pm... the same day, no questions asked. I believe in a company that stands behind their product that way.
07-06-2006, 10:40 PM #15
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- Feb 2005
- Rochester, NY
My department has a TNT 28" spreader and a CC-20 Cutter with a simo pump. It works great and we have never had a problem. We tried out Hurst, Amkus and the TNT and the choice by the members was near unanimous for the TNT. If price is a concern, talk to your local dealer about possibly buying a used demo set. That's what we did. It came with a new set of blades on the cutter and the same warranty as a new unit. We got the cutter, spreader, simo pump and two 20' lengths of hose for under $10K. That was about 3 years ago.
07-08-2006, 04:46 AM #16
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- Apr 2005
- Riverton, IL
My department has Spreader, Cutter, and two sizes of rams made by TNT. These tools are over 10 years old, but still pack a punch. Like most have said they are heavy and that is my only concern (well we are still using the non-mineral based oil as well and that concerns me). We also have two Banam pumps and one Simo pump. The system works well but the weight is my only complaint.
07-09-2006, 09:26 AM #17
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- Jul 2005
we purchased a complete set of TNT tools about a year before hurst tools came out with high pressure tools. We decided from the beginning that we were going to buy high pressure tools. once you use high pressure after using low pressure you will never go back to low pressure again. we looked at every brand that you can imagine. Our dept. has the luxury of having the insurance institute for highway safety in our 1st due so getting new model year cars that are wrecked to cut on is no problem. tnt is not the lightest but is not the heaviest either. they use mineral oil and operate at 10,500 psi. they will come annually to service the tools and inspect them ( no charge ) any problems with the tools and they will be there usually the same day with a replacement until yours is repaired. We use our tools alot and love them. the only problem we have ever had is with the motor on the pump and that was our problem, they were there the same day with a replacement. Simply put a great tool with great service.
07-09-2006, 09:55 AM #18
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- Dec 2002
- Central NJ
I was a die hard Hurst guy..now I wouldnt go back. We have them where I came from and where I work now. One big piece of advice is don't buy a combi tool unless you absoloutely have no space for a cutter and spreader (or dont have the budget). The two tools will give you much greater capabilities. A combi-tool is nothing more than an average of a cutter and spreader combined, it doesnt do either task well. Also, go with the bigger cutter, the thing is unstoppable!
07-09-2006, 11:48 PM #19
Originally Posted by Firefighter430
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- Sep 2003
- Richmond or Charlottesville, Virginia
Since you're from Virginia, I assume you are going to get your tools from Blue Ridge Rescue Suppliers. We bought a bunch of TNT hydraulic equipment (4 rams, 2 spreaders, an O-cutter and a combi tool) for our new heavy rescue, choosing them mostly because we were told BRRS would provide very quick service. We did not find this to be the case. When the system started leaking fluid, we got bounced between Singer (our Pierce dealer) and BRRS, each saying it was the others's problem. It all worked out eventually, but I didn't think we were quite served as well as we could have been.
07-10-2006, 11:35 AM #20
One advantage TNT has is their 2nd stage pump doesn't kick in until around 4500 psi. The 1st stage is where most of your cutting power and speed comes from. Most everyone else's pumps go to 2nd stage around 2000 psi.
For 25 years I used Hurst then Amkus...............I wouldn't have anything other than TNT now.
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