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    Default Polished diamond plate cleaning

    I know this sounds like a wicked whacker question but our AC has a big hard on right now about polishing the diamond plate on all the trucks. Our lead ladder has the rear end comprised entirely of polished diamond plate. It is now 17 years old and in need of cleaning (his opinion). We are trying several products (never dull, Mother's, Flitz, etc) with some success (about equal). IS there a better option out there? The diamond plate is very problematic due to the raised edges.
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    Flitz makes a "polishing ball" that you attach to a 3/8ths drill. apply the Flitz polish to the diamond plate, then use the ":ball to polish it and bring up the luster. Be aware, though, it will splatter like crazy if you use too much.

    You can try non acid based wheel cleaner and a scrub brush to clean the diamond plate, then polish it with the Flitz.

    Be careful around the paintwork, as some cleaners can permanently stain the paint.

    This is a long term project... you have to do a section at a time and compare results with the previously polished areas.
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    I wrote the question while taking a break from the flitz ball and the drill. I was hoping there was something easier. Thanks for the tip though, the flitz ball is not bad. I have been thinking about unbolting the smaller sections and just doing them on a real buffing wheel with some light rouge.
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    Its a never ending task...our engine gets the Flitz every 3-4 days. Its a real pain to get the shine back after a long time.
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    We usually try and polish the diamond plate at least twice a year on our truck once around september august & once in May...we use speedy its great I'm not sure if they sell it on the internet but it works wonders especially on ladders and crome
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    What is Speedy and who is the manufacturer? I have also been trying to find something that works good to clean the diamond plate.

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    Speedy Metal Polish Ok so I was wrong they do have a website, this stuff works awesome
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    an oldie but a goodie ........also check a search .......I know it has been discussed before, and I dont think anyone has found anything in the end that works any better, but who knows E-58 may have something ..........
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    Good ole Elbow Grease.......... Preferably that of community service workers!!!!!

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    Now that is the best suggestion I have heard yet. We got all three of our stations painted by guys in orange pj's.
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    Originally posted by leylandauto
    Now that is the best suggestion I have heard yet. We got all three of our stations painted by guys in orange pj's.
    We use them quite a bit. Damn near all of our apparatus have been waxed and hydrants are currently being painted by community service people just since probably May........ Hopefully we'll get more in........

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    "Mothers" works for us. To apply, use carpet. Cut-up carpet samples work well.

    Wax it after to protect the metal.
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    We had something like this at a place I used to work at. What we did was take some natural pride degreaser in a spray paint gun...it took care of 90% of the work, then came the soft tooth brush (guess who got that job .) The degreaser will get you almost home...after that your on your own.

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    We have always used Mothers and Never Dull. Works great. Our ladder which is a 91 looks brand new(well close to it.)

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    We use Mother's too. Works good for us. AND, someone mentioned Carpet. We use carpet too, and it seems to be better than rags and sponges.
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    Sounds odd, but try instant Iced Tea mix and a scrub brush. Takes off more stuff than you want too know. Hey we drink this stuff

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    After seeing some before and afters, I just ordered a 2 lb. tub of Flitz and the polishing ball.

    Yesterday I got out the Wenol and polished about five square feet of 25 year old diamond plate Engine 4. What a difference about 20 minutes makes, I cannot wait to do the whole thing!
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    To get any grease or grime off, try some simple green or something similar like tempest cleaner. Let it sit for a while. It pulls the crud off pretty good.

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    We use CLR or Lime-Away and a medium coarse brush to clean all diamond plate first and dry it as quickly as possible to prevent new water spots.

    Followed by Mothers or Never Dull whichever we have 'in-stock' in the supply closet... that and alot of elbow grease
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    In the Navy,we'd use orange bug juice powder(aka Kool-Aid-tm),and the flavor doesn't matter-the higher the acid,the better,though-to polish the deckplates in the firerooms.
    Sprinkle the powder,drop a little water on it and start scrubbing with a "Mean Greenie"pad and lots of elbow grease.Then rinse.Repeat where needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ff7134
    Its a never ending task...our engine gets the Flitz every 3-4 days. Its a real pain to get the shine back after a long time.
    Must be nice to have all that time on your hands. Were lucky if we can get the rigs waxed on time (every other month).


    BTW, no ideas on old diamond plate, other then whats been mentioned, none of which is fast.

    The trick is to keep the new stuff looking good. Rinse it well when you wash and dry it right away to prevent water spots. Thats half the battle.

    We have some liquid diamond plate cleaner (dont know the name) that you spray on (watch the paint) hit with a scrub brush then a real good rinse. We dont use anything over it other then our car wash which has a VERY high wax content.

    Weve been doing this on our 2 newest rigs (02's) and its working good so far.

    And, I hope this really doesnt need to be said. PLEASE dont wax any diamond plate that people step/walk on. Someone will go boom.
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    When the Flitz comes in I will take some before and afters and post them on here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave1983
    Must be nice to have all that time on your hands. Were lucky if we can get the rigs waxed on time (every other month).
    Man I hope you are not serious. Every other month? Some paint manufacturers would frown on this. If this is true, you must be parking your rig outdoors with no protection from the elements. 6 times a year seems to be a bit overkill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehs7554
    Man I hope you are not serious. Every other month? Some paint manufacturers would frown on this. If this is true, you must be parking your rig outdoors with no protection from the elements. 6 times a year seems to be a bit overkill.
    Maybe he meant they get washed every other month....oh, wait, that's us....
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    We wax (paste or liquid) maybe once a year. We have some spray wax that makes them look good in a lot less time. IMO, for fire apparatus, the protection is not a big deal unless you have a very high call volume. For us (+/- 500/year) the protection from the sun, acid rain, and bird droppings is not a big deal.

    We have some people who obviously have no background in paint care who just spray it with the hose and dry it. Drives me crazy.
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