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    I thought that in the article it stated that the school would check to see what the student was doing.

    Maybe the school could figure out that if they buy abunch of laptops, maybe they can get a "Large Order" discount.
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    I am sure there is some evil intent in this project, too. Philadelphia Considers Citywide Wireless Internet
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    01 Sep 2004, 22:37 UTC

    The U.S. city of Philadelphia may turn itself in the world's largest wireless Internet zone.

    Philadelphia is studying ways to set up and pay for a network that would give wireless Internet access to any computer in the city that has the proper equipment.

    The ambitious project would involve placing hundreds or possibly thousands of small transmitters around the city on top of light poles.

    Other U.S. cities have been experimenting with wireless Internet networks as the price of the technology comes down.

    A Philadelphia official estimates the system would cost the city about $10 million to set up and $1.5 million per year to maintain.

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    Now we know why they want to close firehouses in Philadelphia.

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    I was thinking the same thing man. All of these cities SCREAM about being broke, biut they want to pay for this?
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    Originally posted by DrParasite
    as for the porn issue, which would you rather have: thousands of college students having lots of sex and spreading STDs and pregnancy like wildfire, or thousands of college students not doing that?
    Are you trying to equate looking at porn on the internet to actually having sex/spreading STDs/pregnancy?

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    if you own the computer, the school cannot say what you have on it.
    Sorry, Dan but you're way off base here. Like some of the others here, I am a network administrator and I WILL control what you bring into by world.

    Since I can't say it any better, I will just quote Bones:

    You want on my network, you play by my rules

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    As an network admin, are you able to get into their comps and see every file? Just a question.
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    actually Adze39, that was more of a joke. sorry, I should have added a "" to make that clearer.

    Originally posted by EFD840
    Sorry, Dan but you're way off base here. Like some of the others here, I am a network administrator and I WILL control what you bring into by world.
    where are you a network admin? the corporate world? or the educational one? because the corporate world will provide it's employees with computers, and as such, can control what they have. the same cannot be said for the educational world, where students own their own computers. you can implement requirements to ensure the safety of your network. anti-virus, no P2P softeware, must have up to date patches, and similar stuff are are valid. but stuff that doesn't affect your network? and just resides on your computer? maybe in the corporate world, but in the educational world, you can't do that (if students own the computers that the items in question reside on).
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    CaptainMikey, yes, if I install the correct software, I can take over someone's computer. However, they know it, they see it, and they can stop it. Most networks use monitoring software to track network traffic looking for specific types of data. This software does not run on anyone's PC, it runs on firewalls, proxy servers, mail servers, etc.

    DrP. I am in the Corp world and we don't supply our employees with their laptops/PC's. They purchase their own. And Yes, they can put whatever software they wish on their own systems, but they also have to use the software that we require. And by firewalls, proxy servers, etc, I limit what their machines can do while on my network, regardless of what they have installed. For example, lot's of people use Always Off Line at home, it doesn't work in our environment as we have it blocked out due to all the popup ads and virus's that are prolific in that service.
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    As an network admin, are you able to get into their comps and see every file? Just a question.
    With the approval of the appropriate management officials, yes.

    Doc, my situation is a little unique in that I work in a government environment but the same concepts still apply to even the educational world. In fact, when you deal with a large, diverse population it is even more important to work at controlling the threats introduced to your network.

    You're right, if I don't own the machine I can't tell them what to put on it BUT if they want to put it on my network I can tell them what is and isn't allowed while they're connected. Once they go home, I don't care.
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    As an network admin, are you able to get into their comps and see every file? Just a question.

    Technically easy. In legal theory, should be allowable absent state statutes to the contrary. If an employer can reserve the right to search items such as purses, or can search employee cars parked on company premises...those rights would continue on to search the contents of a privately-owned computer brought on site.

    From a practical standpoint, unless there's very specific information to support doing so, why bother?
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