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    Default First out apparatus

    I would like to know what some of you other vollies run for your first, second, and third out truck for diffirent alarms. Ours are:

    -Structure Fire
    1st- Engine
    2nd- Truck/Service (inside city limits)
    3rd- Engine (2nd outside city limits)

    -MVA
    1st- Rescue/Service
    2nd- Engine
    3rd- Squad

    -Brush/Wildland Fire
    1st- Brush Truck
    2nd- Engine
    3rd- Squad

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    What we call - A's, B's, C's, and D's - {Apartments, Buildings, Commercials, Dwellings}

    Ladder 1st. {Pump/Hose Equipped}
    Engine
    Engine
    Utility

    A.F.A.'s {Automatic Fire Alarm}
    Ladder
    Engine
    Engine
    Utility

    Investigations {Smoke, Fumes, Falty Alarm, Co. Detector}
    Ladder
    Engine

    M.V.C. - Non-Entrapment
    Utility
    Engine
    Engine

    M.V.C. - With Entrapment and/or vehicle on fire
    Engine {1st. due is an Engine/Rescue}
    Engine
    Utility

    Out of District Assist
    Ladder {Or as specified in dispatch}

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    out station 1, for structures and any structural alarm, we do this:

    1st due engine
    tower ladder
    2nd due engine
    snorkel

    for MVAs with entrapment, we roll our engine/rescue pumper out of our main house, and our heavy rescue out of station 2.
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    My station: 50' Teleboom, Engine, Utility, Van.
    Other station: Engine, Snorkle, Engine, Van.
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    Structure Fire - In city limits (hydrant area)
    - 2 Engines (one from each of our two stations)
    - 1 aerial ladder
    - Utility truck (spare SCBA cylinders, salvage equipment, lights, cords, etc).
    - 1 Squad (ambulance)

    Structure Fire - Outside of the city
    - 2 Engines from Station #1
    - 1600 gallon tanker from Station #2
    - Utility truck
    - 1 Squad (ambulance)

    MVA
    - 1 Squad (ambulance)
    - 1 Light rescue truck (PTO pump, 250 gallons of water, limited tools including hydraulics)
    NOTE - We have a new Rescue/Pumper on order that will replace the current rescue truck.

    Grass / Brush Fire
    - 1 Grass Fire Truck (skid unit on a pick-up)
    - 1 Light rescue truck
    - 1 Engine
    - 1 Squad (if additional manpower is needed)
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    Generally speaking, the RA41 (ambulance) and Utility 41 will be the first out for every call because they're staffed 24/7 (each by one FF).

    For a fire call, its generally as follows:

    E41 - interior attack
    E241 - varies, generally second attack or truck company
    T41 - truck company
    E341 - RIC

    The RA41 FF will form the medical division, and if we have enough personnel, RA241 will be brought to the scene to assist with EMS, but will remain available to respond to a second call. The U41 FF will generally attach to the truck company, but may be attached anywhere by the IC.

    For TCs, it's generally just RA41, U41 and E41, along with the Battalion. U41 carries a Hurst and will work with E41 for extrication if needed. If there are multiple injuries, E241 and RA241 will also be dispatched.
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    lets see...

    Dwellings/Building/Apartments/Alarm systems:
    Engine/Engine/Rescue

    MVA's (rescue/non-rescue)
    Engine/Rescue/Engine

    Brush/Dumpster/misc garbage:
    Engine/Engine

    Rescue Assignments:
    Engine/Rescue

    Cover Assignments:
    Engine

    Investigations:
    Engine 6912/Rescue or Engine (depends on manpower)

    CO detectors:
    Engine 6912/Engine/Rescue

    All responses are dependant on manpower situation
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    Dwellings/Building/Stucture/Apartment
    (In Westville)
    1st Due Engine
    Ladder Company
    2nd Due Engine
    Rescue Company
    Squad
    (In Woodbury)
    Ladder Company
    1st Due Engine
    2nd Due Engine
    Rescue Company

    Motor Vehicle Crash
    With or Without Entrapment
    (In Westville)
    Squad
    Rescue Company
    Ladder Company
    1st Due Engine
    2nd Due Engine

    (New Jersey Turnpike)
    Squad
    Rescue Company

    (In Woodbury)
    Rescue Company
    Ladder Company
    1st Due Engine(Cover Both Towns)

    Ped. Motor Vehicle Crash
    Squad
    Rescue Company
    Ladder Company
    1st Due Engine

    EMS Assist
    Rescue Company

    Cover Assignments
    Depends on what town
    (Deptford)
    Ladder Company
    (Gibbstown)
    Ladder Company
    (Gloucester City)
    Ladder Company

    Brush/Rubbish/Dumpster
    1st Due Engine
    2nd Due Engine
    Rescue Company

    Alarm System/CO Alarm
    1st Due Engine
    Ladder Company
    2nd Due Engine
    Rescue Company

    Investagations
    1st Due Engine
    Ladder Company
    2nd Due Engine

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    Structure Fire
    1st-Pumper 6
    2nd-Tanker 3
    3rd-Tanker 1
    4th-Personel 5
    5th-Utility 2 Or Old Pumper

    M.V.A.-W/ Entrapment
    Utility 2-(Carrys Extrication Tools)
    Pumper 6

    M.V.A.-W/O Entrapment
    Pumper 6

    Car Fires
    Pumper 6
    Tanker 3

    Alarms,Chimney Fires
    Pumper 6

    Brush/Wildland
    Tanker 1-(Holds Dump Tank)
    Tanker 3
    Personel 5
    Utility 2- If Portable Pump Is Required

    Mutual Aid-Obviously Depends On Size Of Fire
    Generally Either Pumper 6
    Tanker 3
    Personel 5

    Medical
    Utility 2
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    \Motor Vehicle Accidents\

    -Ambulance
    -Mini Pumper
    -Salvage Truck



    \Structure Fire\


    -First Out Engine
    -Ambulance
    -Water Supply which in town Second out engine or in country would be tanker
    -Salvage
    -Second out engine
    -Aerial
    -Anything else


    \Co Alarm\

    -Mini Pumper
    -Ambulance

    \Neusence fires IE: Garbage, mailbox, trash\

    -Second out engine
    -Ambulance

    \High and low angle rescues\

    - Mini Pumper
    -Salvage Truck
    -Ambulance


    \Water Rescue\

    -Boat
    -Ambulance
    -Salvage Truck


    \Brush Fire\

    -Both Brush Jeeps
    -Ambulance
    -Second out engine
    -Salvage
    -Tanker (If needed)

    Ambulance goes on all calls.
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    Default Re: First out apparatus

    Structure Fire:
    Engine
    Engine
    Heavy Rescue
    Ambulance
    First Chief to the station takes the Command Unit
    We also get two engines on automatic aid.

    MVA:
    Engine
    Ambulance
    Heavy Squad (goes second if dispatched as or PD confirms entrapment)
    Weekdays 0730-1630 we also get an auto-aid engine.

    Brush/Wildland Fire:
    What's that?
    Luckily, we're mostly residential. No large open areas. If we have a grass (lawn) fire, we send our second out engine first because it still has a red-line booster reel.
    Last edited by WTFD10; 09-28-2004 at 06:54 PM.
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    Area box (house fire) or Commercial Box (commercial building fire)
    Hydranted Area:

    Engine, Sub Station Engine
    Truck
    Ambulance
    Pumper/Tanker

    Non Hydranted Area
    Pumper/Tanker, Sub Station Engine
    Truck
    Ambulance
    2nd Engine

    Rescue Box (Auto Accident)
    Ambulance
    Rescue, Sub Station Engine

    Local Box (Brush or Car Fires)
    Brush Truck or Rescue, Sub Station Engine

    Fire Alarms in our first due are run the same as an Area or Commercial Box.

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    Structure fire in the city limits: 1- City pumper followed by 1- county pumper then ladder.
    S.F.county: 1-County pumper, 1-tanker(s),ladder.
    M V A
    Heavy Rescue then county pumper
    BRUSHFIRE
    1 Fast attack: 1 ton pickup 200gal.
    1 6x6 800gal.
    more of the same, if fire is too big for these two units.
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    Here's our setup:

    Residential (and small commercial) Structure Fire:

    1. 1st out engine
    2. Command (Chief's vehicle)
    3. 2nd out engine
    4. Squad

    Our 1st response EMS is a volunteer non-transport BLS service and they respond to all fires (especially since most of thier people are FF's with our department too). All structure fires also get an ALS ambulance from our county EMS.

    Commercial/Industrial Structure Fire:

    1. 1st out eninge
    2. Command
    3. 2nd out engine
    4. Ladder or Quint (mutual aid from city next-door)
    5. Squad


    MVA - City

    1. 1st out engine
    2. county ambulance/rescue

    MVA - Highway

    1. County Ambulance/rescue
    2. 2nd out engine

    Mutual-Aid
    1. 2nd out engine
    2. Squad
    3. Command

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    First Due Calls:

    Wagon, Truck, Pumper

    Second Due:

    Wagon or Truck (Depending on what's dispatched.) Any other staffed units stay in the station in case another run comes in. Per our Chief, we cannot take more than what is dispatched outside of the First Due.

    Water Supply Runs:

    Wagon, Water Supply Pumper, Support Unit, Pumper.

    Wagon = First out Engine
    Pumper= Second Out Engine (Hydrant Pumper)
    Water Supply Pumper= 2000GPM pumper with 2000' of 5" and nothing else.
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    We operate 5 stations with 5 engines, 2 tankers, heavy and light rescue, 2 service trucks and 2 brush trucks over a 113 mile area so I'll keep it simple and just give standard assignments:

    structure fire - residental:
    engine from central station
    engine from closest satellitte station
    3000 gallon Tanker
    rescue from central
    closest service truck
    structure fire - commercial
    same as above except add 6000 gallon tanker
    grass/brush fire
    same as structure fire/residental except add
    closest brush truck and delete service truck
    MVA -
    engine from central
    rescue from central
    generally engine from closest satellitte station stays
    in quarters
    MVA - Interstate
    engine from central - reported direction of
    travel
    engine from satellitte station closest to exit - opp. reported direction of travel
    rescue from central
    All other fires
    engine from central
    closest satellitte engine generally stays in
    quarters
    rescue from central on gas related calls

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    Heres how we roll;

    Stucrture fire

    Engine 1
    Tower 4
    Engine 2
    Engine 3
    Rescue 5

    A.F.A.'s

    Engine 1
    Tower 4
    Engine 2 <---if recall has not be announced

    M.V.A.

    Rescue 5
    Engine 2

    Brush/ Auto Fire

    Engine 2
    Engine 3

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