What is your departments policy? Mine is no they are not allowed only in chief's trucks
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10-05-2004, 07:52 AM #1Junior Member
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Lights and Sirens in Personal Veichles
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10-05-2004, 08:07 AM #2
Re: Lights and Sirens in Personal Veichles
Originally posted by WisconsinFire
Mine is no they are not allowed only in chief's trucks
Same Here...Chiefs And Deputys Can Have Lights And Sirens In POVIf someone with multiple personalities threatens to kill himself, is it considered a hostage situation?
Ryan
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10-05-2004, 08:39 AM #3FH Mag/.com Contributor
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In Texas, any member can have red lights and sirens on their POV, which is then considered an emergency vehicle like any other on the road, by law people have to get out of the way. I've heard some other states where that's not the case, so there's no penalty/ticket for not moving. For POVs, ambulances, fire trucks, or cops.
I always ask the people that say they won't move: Since you're in front of me, how do you know I'm not trying to get to your house?
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10-05-2004, 09:46 AM #4
The Chief has a Tahoe that is all decked out, it's a dept. vehicle with lights and sirens. Honestly I don't know if I have ever seen his POV. As for all other members, blue lights only.
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10-05-2004, 09:50 AM #5MembersZone Subscriber
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We don't have a department policy on lights/sirens in POV's because it's not only against the law, it's a danger to other motorists. Not only do you have Fire/EMS units responding to an incident, you have 10 Whackers with 48" lightbars on their Pinto's running around like maniacs too.
Do a search on the forums dude, this is probably the 1000th thread on this subject.
Staff your firehouses, then you won't have to entertain this dangerous and un-regulated practice. If you took all the $$$ people spent on Whacker lights, you could build a bunkroom in every Volunteer Fire House in America.Proud Right-Wing Extremist since 1992
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10-05-2004, 09:57 AM #6MembersZone Subscriber
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A VOLY can have a red light in Fl, the light is considered a "courtesy light" some drivers show us "courtsey" but don't count on it
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10-05-2004, 10:00 AM #7
Tiller, I don't know where your are from (I'm guessing in the maryland/virginia area), but for a department that gets less than 1000 calls a year, convincing a person who isn't being paid to stay at the firehouse on the off chance that they might get 3 calls in a 24 hour period just isn't going to happen. and if you think that is bad, try doing it for a department that gets less than 300 calls.Originally posted by TillerMan25
Staff your firehouses, then you won't have to entertain this dangerous and un-regulated practice.
my department allows blue lights, but tbe reality is, most people DON'T use them for minor calls. maybe for working fires or a life threatening emergency, but not for an AFA or a BS call.If my basic HazMat training has taught me nothing else, it's that if you see a glowing green monkey running away from something, follow that monkey!
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10-05-2004, 10:33 AM #8
Department policy does not allow blue lights on POV's. Chiefs are allowed red lights. No one has sirens.
"This thread is being closed as it is off-topic and not related to the fire industry." - Isn't that what the Off Duty forum was for?
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10-05-2004, 01:22 PM #9
Not allowed in California.
Chris Gaylord
Emergency Planner / Fire Captain, UC Santa Cruz FD
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10-05-2004, 05:39 PM #10
we allow blue lights in our town but not to many have them only the guys that live a little farther away from the firehouses...and out of our 5 firehouse and 180 members only 3 or 4 have light bars....2 of those are our OEM coordinators. We respond to about 250-300 calls a year. you say to staff the firehouse 24/7 sometimes we dont see an alarm for a week at a time..I like hanging out at the firehouse but for that many alarms i dont think so...I'll stick to responding from home using my "WACKER LIGHT"
Andrew
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New Jersey
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10-05-2004, 06:06 PM #11Senior Member
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In West Virginia, if your Chief allows his firemen to have them, you must send your vehicle info to the State Fire Marshal's office and receive a permit sticker. If you have a light, you must have a siren and it must be turned on when your light is. And of course, the light has to be RED. The color it should be. I don't understand why some depts in other states have blue lights. It is so simple:
Fire dept. - Red
Law enforcement - Blue
Utility/Street maintenance - Amber
Personally, I think other states should be more concerned with some wacko pervert using his blue light to force a young lady (or anybody) to pull off the road.
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10-05-2004, 10:23 PM #12
as has been discussed previously, different states have different colors for different departments. some states use RED for police, and blue for volunteer fire. so if you pulled up behind me with your light and siren on (me being from NJ, where red means police), I'd think you were a cop, and you could force me off the road. most volunteers that use blue lights don't permit their members to usea siren in their POV.Originally posted by Fire2123
Personally, I think other states should be more concerned with some wacko pervert using his blue light to force a young lady (or anybody) to pull off the road.If my basic HazMat training has taught me nothing else, it's that if you see a glowing green monkey running away from something, follow that monkey!
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10-06-2004, 02:04 AM #13
What a refreshing new topic.......
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10-06-2004, 11:11 AM #14
I understand your frustration at multiple threads about the same topic.Originally posted by firenresq77
What a refreshing new topic.......
On the other hand....
I am a hunter and shooter. If you read hunting and shooting magazines, every 2 years like clockwork you will see the same story retreaded. The magazine editors do this and get away with this is because of the continual number of new subscribers.
I think this forum board is like that. A person new to this board, and one who learns its features as he/she goes along (like your favorite feature - SEARCH, may not be aware that the topic about lightbars on POVs has been done to death.
The same goes for How good are HMEs, How good are KMEs, Pierce vs E1, and on and on.
And the people who have been on the board for a while just say "here we go again"
I think the multiple threads about one topic will go on forever, unless WT prepares a basic education for Firehouse forum users
(slim/none)
Or it could be an anti MINI-ME person posting this under multiple ids, just to get your goat...........
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10-06-2004, 11:14 AM #15FH Mag/.com Contributor
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Don't you mean Mini-Goat?
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10-06-2004, 05:03 PM #16
Everybody loves Mini-Me......... even Bou..... He missed him while he was on vacation....... He damn near BEGGED me to bring him back.......
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10-06-2004, 09:56 PM #17MembersZone Subscriber
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As I've said before on similar posts,our state let's vol. have L&S on our pov's. But it is up to the dept.whether they want you to use them or not.Ours doesn't and I don't miss them, besides I get to play with all the L&S I want on the trucks which is enough for me.
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10-07-2004, 07:30 AM #18
Yea, I wish there could be a forum code that would automaticly lock a topic with this content as soon as it is created and automaticly re-direct the poster to the search feature. These topics never have anything useful come out of them.Originally posted by pfd3501
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I understand your frustration at multiple threads about the same topic.
On the other hand....
I am a hunter and shooter. If you read hunting and shooting magazines, every 2 years like clockwork you will see the same story retreaded. The magazine editors do this and get away with this is because of the continual number of new subscribers.
I think this forum board is like that. A person new to this board, and one who learns its features as he/she goes along (like your favorite feature - SEARCH, may not be aware that the topic about lightbars on POVs has been done to death.Even the burger-flippers at McDonald's probably have some McWackers.
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10-14-2004, 10:54 AM #19
I sorry, but if you don't like the thread.....don't read it. The old threads may not contain information from some of the new readers. So I see nothing wrong with re-posting old threads. MHO
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10-14-2004, 05:11 PM #20
Originally posted by THEFIRENUT
I sorry, but if you don't like the thread.....don't read it. The old threads may not contain information from some of the new readers. So I see nothing wrong with re-posting old threads. MHO
Great First Post Chief...
....But With The Number Of Threads On This Topic...If You Can't Find The Info Your Asking About,Theres Something Wrong
If someone with multiple personalities threatens to kill himself, is it considered a hostage situation?
Ryan
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