I do have lights on my vehicle. They can be a considerable asset. They must be used responsibly though. In New Jersey it is not a law to yield to blue lights. Some drive like it is, but it isn't. Emergency vehicles in New Jersey are defined as having red lights and "sirens" activated.
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Thread: What Is It With Blue Lights
02-22-2008, 12:40 PM #41
Some do go way overboard!David DeCant
Barrington, New Jersey
A paycheck doesn't make you a professional.
02-22-2008, 02:01 PM #42
39:3-54.12 Rights of motor vehicle with emergency lights in operation.
6. Nothing contained herein is intended to grant to any member of a volunteer fire company, a volunteer first aid or rescue squad or a volunteer Office of Emergency Management any privileges or exemptions denied to the drivers of other vehicles, and such members operating emergency warning lights shall drive with due regard for the safety of all persons and shall obey all the traffic laws of this State including R.S.39:4-81, provided, however, that the drivers of non-emergency vehicles upon any highway shall yield the right of way to the vehicle of any member of a volunteer fire company, a volunteer first aid or rescue squad or a volunteer Office of Emergency Management operating emergency warning lights in the same manner as is provided for authorized emergency vehicles pursuant to R.S.39:4-92.
L.1977,c.223,s.6; amended 2005, c.34, s.4; 2005, c.218, s.5.
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02-22-2008, 03:08 PM #43
How many of you tell your automotive liability insurance carrier that you have blue lights on your POV??????"Loyalty Above all Else. Except Honor."
02-22-2008, 04:36 PM #44
I don't normally chime in these either but, it is normally paid guys who have never worked or volunteered in any other department than the one they have worked for their entire career that always want to make this an issue.
Like it not, about 80% of the fire service is volunteer. I have worked for or volunteered for about 3 or 4 other departments before working here in Memphis for the last 13 years.
This is a simple issue. If you don't like, see the need for, or understand someone using a legal visual or audible warning device that they normally pay for in their own automobile, just don't buy one for yours. If you think they are a useless tool in a POV, go to your station and start stripping your apparatus of all the same similar devices. They do work the same you know and many departments go just as more over top with their apparatus as some people do with their own cars. The latest and greatest LED lights and multiple sirens with no tools and a single 150' preconnect and supply line. Thats where you should be outraged!!Robert Kramer
Management is making sure things are done right. Leadership is doing the right thing. The fire service needs alot more leaders and a lot less managers.
"Everyone goes home" is the mantra for the pussification of the modern, American fire service.
Comments made are my own. They do not represent the official position or opinion of the Fire Department or the City for which I am employed. In fact, they are normally exactly the opposite.
02-22-2008, 04:45 PM #45
What the douce???
Damn you cellblock, have to be a s**t disturber don't yah?If someone with multiple personalities threatens to kill himself, is it considered a hostage situation?
02-22-2008, 04:47 PM #46Mark Zanghetti
Goshen Fire Dept.
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02-25-2008, 12:22 AM #49
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02-27-2008, 10:25 PM #50
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I'm only 18, and I live on Long Island, New York, where tons of people have blue lights. I can see both sides of the debate, and I can agree with both as well. Like a few of you said, "When I was younger, I used to love my lights". Since I am "young" I'm sure I'll be 'Light Happy' for a few weeks, but I'm sure ill get over them quick.
Now, heres my two cents on the debate:
Where I live, there is HEAVY, HEAVY traffic on the roads no matter what time of the day it is, especially during the summer months. Although I live about a mile from my dept, lights are needed. Are Fire Dept. consists of 100 vollys, and 25 paid guys. Thankfully most of the 40,000 people who live in my town (well... city actually) do pull a side when they see the flashing blue lights. I do think that every volly should be able to buy lights if they want, and must honk / hold their horn down when nearing corners, red lights, stop signs, school zones, etc.
02-28-2008, 09:12 PM #51
Here's a question I have. How come the lights are blue? Whats the story about this being the color? In Wi. their red. Also why don't they (Govt) make them all be one color? How many and which states are blue, red or any another color?
02-28-2008, 09:59 PM #52
“Guys if you get hurt, we’ll help you. If you get sick we’ll treat you. If you want to bitch and moan, then all I can tell you is to flick the sand out of your slit, suck it up or get the hell out!”
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02-29-2008, 09:57 AM #53
02-29-2008, 11:56 AM #54
Never say never, never say always.
Yes, I have a good LED lighting package in my truck. Paid very little for it, due to low friends in high places. No, I don't use it for every call, and I will rarely use it at night, unless there are a decent amount of cars on the road.
They key is selecting which calls to take the risk and go lights to, and which to go normal traffic.
Drive safe Brothers!AJ, MICP, FireMedic
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05-20-2008, 03:30 PM #55
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I truly am not trying to start a problem just helping the tourist firefighters from the north that come here for fun to avoid the hassles by passing on the words of wisdom from some LEO's I know.Originally Posted by the1141man
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05-20-2008, 03:34 PM #56
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05-22-2008, 01:36 AM #58Just someone trying to help! (And by the way....Thanks for YOUR help!)
Aggressive does not have to equal stupid.
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05-22-2008, 09:11 AM #59
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Ok is anyone from I think it is Arizona? There is one state that the tow trucks run blue, again I think it is Arizona. What if the towing company tows to your area will they arrest them?
05-22-2008, 09:12 AM #60
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