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    Default Considering College?

    I know there's a lot of discussion this time of year about thinking about where you might want to go to pursue a bachelor's degree or just become a firefighter out right.

    I would propose to you that you consider the bachelor's degree in Fire Protection and Safety Engineering Technology at Oklahoma State University (yes, where IFSTA, IFSAC, and those people that make the Essentials books are). Our program is the only ABET accredited program in country and out graduates enjoy a nearly 100% placement rate in either public or private fire protection and and almost 80% of thse same graduates are in managemnt positions within 10 years of graduation.

    Consider your options. I learned about Oklahoma State on this very forum from a guy I met face to face nearly 2 years later and now speak with a frequent basis even after his graduation. Don't be fooled by those other schools in Kentucky or Maryland. Oklahoma State graduates founded both programs.

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    I have not been to OSU, however I am a student at Eastern Kentucky University. I will not tell anyone which school to go to, but make sure you look around. There are only a few schools in the country with a four year program, and you want to find the one that is best for you. Look into Oklahoma State, Eastern Kentucky University, University of New Haven, Maryland, and I think that Lousiana State may have a program. Look for the pros and cons of all schools before making a decision.
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    also texas a&m and lake superior state in mich.
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    What is ABET?

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    I'll be at Eastern Kentucky next fall for their Fire Science program. When I visited the campus I was surprised how much I liked it. Hopefully I won't be let down, this looks like a good program and definitely beneficial for my future. Whatever you choose just go wherever you feel at home and you'll be happy.

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    also i am currently a student at anna maria college in Paxton MA. which is just outside Worcester. the school has a four year bachlor's program and it also has a master's degree offered in fire science and public administration and much more.

    their website is www.annamaria.edu
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    NAh u want fire science or fire protection.. come down where i am at the university of maryland. not only is it one of the best for this field but like me u can be a live in at any firehouse in prince georges county and gain lots and lots of experience

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    ABET - American Board of Engineering Technology

    UMD is nice but it's hella expensive. Plus, no offense, but you gain to no practical experience in your career field anyways. The live in programs are nice, but they only take as many people as they can hold and usually no more.

    I take offense to the term 'engineer' when one is referng to our program here at Oklahoma State. We're technology specialists, meaning latest practical knowledge in just about everything fire protection and safety related. Our classes are the best blend of everything, from OSHA to building design and construction.

    We have been and always will be "The West Point of the Fire Service."
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    I would have to concur!!!! O.S.U is the "West Point of the Fire Service"

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    ABET - American Board of Engineering Technology

    UMD is nice but it's hella expensive. Plus, no offense, but you gain to no practical experience in your career field anyways. The live in programs are nice, but they only take as many people as they can hold and usually no more.

    I take offense to the term 'engineer' when one is referng to our program here at Oklahoma State. We're technology specialists, meaning latest practical knowledge in just about everything fire protection and safety related. Our classes are the best blend of everything, from OSHA to building design and construction.

    We have been and always will be "The West Point of the Fire Service."
    Yep and Maryland is the "Annapolis" of the Fire Service.

    Kind of tacky to knock another program like you have, particularly when you have already made the point that it was founded by your programs grads. Does not look to good to say such things about your alumni.

    Maryland is quit resonable for in-state folks, a little high for out of state. I bet the same is true for OSU.
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    Dennisthemennace: I can not speak for engine1321, however, I am just having some competitive fun, just like any fire service organization--I do not mean anything behind it. I know that U of M has an excellent program, just as OSU. (matter of fact, not that we like to mention it too often, but our department head is a U of M grad.) So, if I offended you or anyone else by any of my comments made in this thread or others reference to any other university or program, I did not mean anything by it, I am just having some fun......

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    Cal State Los Angeles has a four year program. And it is here in sunny SoCal.
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    Originally posted by OSUFire1
    Dennisthemennace: I can not speak for engine1321, however, I am just having some competitive fun, just like any fire service organization--I do not mean anything behind it. I know that U of M has an excellent program, just as OSU. (matter of fact, not that we like to mention it too often, but our department head is a U of M grad.) So, if I offended you or anyone else by any of my comments made in this thread or others reference to any other university or program, I did not mean anything by it, I am just having some fun......
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    If you are looking for a fire science program close to Kansas i would recomend Hutchinson Community College. I am currently enrolled there and it is a great program with a lot to offer. I would check it out!

    http://www.hutchcc.edu/dept/6/fire/

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    As a Maryland grad who has worked on FPP books in scenic Stillwater and has colleagues at Eastern Kentucky I gotta grin at the "competitive" postings.

    Here is one resource, from the revised US Fire Administration website, listing "accredited" programs:

    http://www.usfa.fema.gov/training/nf...d_college.shtm

    While designed for adults already in the workforce with a two year degree or 60 semester hours of credit, the "Degree at a Distance" BS program is a distance education program offered at seven different colleges or universities throughout the nation.

    http://www.usfa.fema.gov/training/nf...rams/distance/

    Do not forget the University of New Haven (BS and Masters), John Jay (New York City), Akron, Phoenix College/Arizona State University East, Worcester Polytechnic, etc. This NFPA link lists additional educational institutions (with their websites)

    http://www.nfpa.org/itemDetail.asp?c...source%20links

    Many of the "fire science" bachelor degree programs focus on emergency management, safety, fire technology or risk management, Good luck!

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    P.S.: Educational programs are constantly changing, so graduates of these programs may have great memories but your reality may be different.

    That was a of the point made in the College Park VFD fund letter sent to former CPVFD/UMD student members as they asked for donations to replace fire apparatus old enough to get antique plates.

    You need to investigate the situation for yourself and speak with the students. You should visit the college, meet the professors and check out the facilities.
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    And talk to students!

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    In Illinois is College of Dupage. www.cod.edu I will be attending next year (fall 2005). Pretty reasonable tuition. I have been told Illinois is one of the best states to get an education for Fire Service or policing. WIU is like the 4th best school in the nation for Criminal Justice
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    Default Hey EKU

    One more school you might want to look at is Providence Collge. But I didn't go there instead I headed of to EKU from Maine. To the guys in and starting at EKU good luck. I just finish there after several years. But your right there are only a few 4 year school and that how I got ot EKU. Also if you are looking for a Fire Science degree see what other places like EKU that offer a litte more then Fire Science. It might look the same but it isn't.
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    ok what positions are you entitled to if you do get your fire science degree or similair, i am asking becuase im going through training right now for the forestry service and at the same time going to college and getting my fire science certification, not sure if i want to go for the full degree...thanks
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    Well it depends on what you are looking for in the furture. Some departments are getting to the point that you need a degree at least BA / BS level inorder to be promoted. Sometimes it gives you an advantage for salary hiring and other possible positions.

    If you end up wanting to do more then just fight fires like consulting. Having a BS at a min will help you get those jobs. If you feel that you will be happy with just a certificate then get it. If you feel that more will benefit then go furture and finish.

    But think of this a BS is going to get or more then an Associate Degree.
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    Hey, if you want fire, look in your IFSTA books at where the book is written... so I'll admit it's more focused at industry but I'm focusing my senior project on my home fire department using everything I've learned. We also have a kick *** basketball team. Wanna know more? Hit me up rj.stine@okstate.edu

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    There's also UNH -- www.newhaven.edu

    Happy to answer any questions, but the place has really grown since I graduated in 1997.

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    Wow! Is this timing or what! My son is looking at all of the schools you have mentioned here. He has been accepted at OSU, and we are waiting to hear from Maryland. He is headed for the Engineering end of things. This has been informative. And yes, we have been to Maryland and are headed to Oklahoma in 2 weeks.

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    If he is going to the Engineering Field, University of Maryland is the King as far as I have heard.
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