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    Thumbs down Ready for your Morning Coffee? True feelings of the Losers in the "Blue" States!

    Such Profanity laced Anger from the Morons on the Left, I am glad to know people in Boston, NY, DC, San Fran, LA and Seattle hate me so much. Makes me lose sleep....








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    N E W S F E A T U R E


    Don't forgive my anger. All this needs to be said. And I know that as soon as that stiff-faced to-the-manure-born right-wing lackey in the White House tries to appoint a 21st-century counterpart to Roy Bean to the Supreme Court in a few weeks, more people are going to wish they'd said it sooner. John Kerry f-cked up. More important, America f-cked up. And the people who f-cked up the most--you infamous red-staters--are going to suffer along with the rest of us. To put it in lingo a NASCAR devotee would understand, "Y'all deserve a good talkin'-to." John F. Kerry, you're first.

    In your befuddling concession speech, you actually called for unity and healing. Sounds good, clown, but can't you even imagine for a second that the people who supported you so zealously for the past five months might just see that insincere gesture of good sportsmanship as a betrayal? See, unlike you pols, we voters actually believe in ****. We believe that George W. Bush and his henchpeople are a real threat to the survival of democracy. We believe that they're killing people for profit. And we believe that they don't have a god-amn clue about forfending terrorism on U.S. soil.

    That's not a position gap; that's an ideological gash. And it's not going to heal, because, unlike you expedient professional truth-manipulators, I'm not prepared to meet the enemies of freedom halfway just because you lost the election. Your speechwriters might see the Bush administration's failings as nothing more than convenient fodder for your campaign blather, but the GOP junta's sins don't go away just because decrying them no longer serves your ambitions. Last week they were the imperialist pigs who misled us into war and you were the savior. Now we're the god-amn Getalong Gang?! Screw that. Fight back or shut up.

    Now, the rest of you. ...

    A lot of us effete Easterners want to know: What the f-ck is wrong with you?! You voted against your self-interest at every turn (you dumb-as*es in South Dakota deserve special credit for voting out one of the most powerful Democrats in the Senate) and re-elected an ignorant cowboy who can't be trusted to remember a lunch order, never mind run a country. What in the name of God...?! Wait, it was in the name of God, wasn't it? Rendered weak and ignorant by a spoon-fed climate of fear, you slack-jawed inbred flatlanders have sought refuge in the traditional twin towers of mindlessness--jingoistic patriotism and fundamentalist religion. God's on your side. Like hell. Jesus loves us, dammit.

    Okay, you want God? Let's talk about God. Your religion is bogus. Fundamentalism, the facile belief in the unexplained and un-researched, is something you born-agains (couldn't get it right the first time, huh?) share with Al Qaeda, whose ideologues doggedly adhere to religious misinterpretations every bit as silly and dangerous as yours. Just like you, Muslim fundamentalists long to impose an unrealistic and intolerant pseudo-Calvinist morality on the world. In fact, America's religious right has so much in common with the Shiah, it's a wonder you guys don't invite them to join the Rotary. Born-againsters look for the face of Christ in the wallpaper; fundamentalist Muslims hallucinate the voice of the 12th Imam; but aside from that (and extremely divergent attitudes toward pork), you both hate the same stuff--homosexuality, pacifism, Jews, education, uppity women, enlightenment, short skirts, gangsta rap, tattoos, infidels. ... (They also share your love of super-lethal weaponry.)

    Well, sorry to burst your holy bubble, Jesus freaks, but God did not create the world in seven days; that's just ignorant. Like a lot of stuff in the Bible, it didn't happen. And Moses looked more like Jeff Goldblum than like Charlton Heston. Jesus didn't hunt; he fished. Jesus wouldn't want you (or anyone else) to have an assault rifle. What would Jesus do if he met you? He'd ask you to stop ruining his hard-won good reputation. (Y'know the guy died to redeem your sorry a*s; you might at least show a little respect for what he was really about.)

    What else is bothering you self-destructive morons? What other overwhelmingly urgent issue caused you to vote yourselves into the retirement poorhouse and sacrifice the four freedoms? Gay marriage? Dig it. Right at this moment in your little picturesque insular East Silage-for-Brains, U.S.A., there are gay and lesbian couples walking around--possibly even copulating. Really. It's been going on around you all your lives, and you've never been hurt by it. Now, if these same couples were "married" in any legal sense, they'd still walk and copulate as usual and it still wouldn't make any difference to you. You don't like or understand homosexuality? Fine. Nobody's asking your permission. But it's not your problem. And hiding it won't make it go away. Nor will persecuting gays change anybody's sexual preference. So, to put it aptly, go f*ck yourselves and leave other people alone.

    Anything else? Education deform ... er, reform. Some of you weren't even born the first time when, in 1968, legendary secular-humanist prophet Frank Zappa wrote: "All your children are poor unfortunate victims of lies you believe. A plague upon your ignorance that keeps the young from the truth they deserve." We repeat, creationism is absurd. Yet in the name of protecting this ridiculous and irrelevant belief, you toothless crank-heads are willing to eschew all science and learning this side of Copernicus. (Or do you still think the sun orbits the earth?) The Bushies really are on your side here. Leaders like G.W. and (yes, it's a fair comparison) Hitler rise to power by exploiting the support of the weak and stupid, so it's in their interest to encourage weakness and stupidity. That's where universal education becomes a threat. Education encourages creative thought. Creative thought empowers people. Fascists hate creative thought. So it's incredibly convenient for the GOP that you folks actually want your kids to be dumb. Which is why the No Child Left Behind initiative you endorse has, in fact, done nothing! Happy? Perhaps ignorance really is bliss.

    What else is on your hate-laden Limbaugh-laid table? Flag burning? It's just cloth, guys. Sex ed? Heaven forbid your daughters learned the facts of life in time to prevent having to avoid an abortion.

    Gun control? We said "control," not confiscation. And there are high-powered automatic weapons most civilians really do not need. Even moose tend to come at you one at a time. "But shooting's fun!" you argue. "It's a sport." Breaking windows and driving 100 miles an hour are fun, but they're legally controlled activities. "But," you object, "how do I defend my family when the n*gras and the Jews and the Communists from Harvard come on my property?" Right. Lock the gate; everybody covets your Tupperware and your chard. We'll be right over.

    Does it really bother you cornpone chuckleheads that "we" think you're under-educated, culturally limited and ignorant? Well, how about proving us wrong? For starters, get this straight: There were no weapons of mass destruction; the Iraqis did not attack the World Trade Center; lots of children (including many of yours) are left behind every day; the greenhouse effect is for real; and the Dixie Chicks were right. Pin down a few of those basics and then perhaps we'll talk.

    Am I being elitist here? Disrespectful of the dignity of the masses? I f*ckin' hope so, because 51 percent of the masses have had their say and it doesn't make sense. Besides, when I think about people being tortured while they're held without representation at Guantnamo and Iraqi families crawling out of the rubble of their own homes, I'm not too worried if I insult some Bible-sucking insurance salesman or a possum-breathed saw sharpener.

    Too harsh? I know (because I've been so chided) that there are lots of good, right-thinking/left-leaning liberals out there who feel it's my responsibility to "understand" you. These are good people; unlike you as*holes, they voted the right way. But this is why in true progressive circles the word liberal attracts adjectives such as "wishy-washy," "self-serving" and "useless."

    In its own well-intentioned way, liberalism is, when you think about it, almost as big a problem as fundamentalism is. See, as much as I disagree with you and am disgusted by the shallow and pathetic pawns you've become, I respect your potential. That's why liberal Democrats can't bring themselves to do what the Republicans do so well -- cynically lie to you for selfish gain. (Do you really think Kerry would have banned the Bible?) We nice people actually expected reasoned arguments, logic and incontrovertible evidence to convince you that Kerry was the better candidate. Turns out that the GOP's double whammy of fear and loathing is a more powerful vote-getting tool.

    Of course they, not we, laid the groundwork there. And that's the real shocker you fly-over chicken-rubbers are going to realize just before the end (of freedom, that is; I don't mean the Rapture, which is something else you believe in that's not going to happen): You've been duped, and the Bushies are laughing at you behind your spineless backs right now. The Republicans don't care about you; they just wanted your vote so they can stay in power and make their oil-and-blood-soaked cronies even richer. They're going to send your job overseas and destroy Social Security. In the name of catching terrorists, they're going to make sure you don't read any interesting books or travel without permission. They're going to toss you a minuscule tax cut in exchange for under-funding public education and social services, so there will be more poor people around to bother you. Perhaps you will become one of them.

    They're going to shower the pharmaceutical companies with excess profits while denying you life-saving medical attention. They're going to let corporate conglomerates fill the air you breathe with carcinogens while they discourage clean-energy research. They're going to insist the ozone layer's OK until y'all bake your little red asses off. They're going to alienate the rest of the Western world and any portion of the Eastern world that isn't willing to supply Wal-Mart with cheap labor. They're going to throw more Saddam-esque bogeymen in your face while tacitly supporting Saudi terrorists and ignoring nuclear-armed Korean dictators. They're going to rig the system so that even you law-abiding yahoos won't be able to get a fair trial. And worst of all, they're going to dehumanize your children and send them off to kill or be killed in the name of oil profits.

    And you bought into it all because you're afraid. And you're afraid because they scared you. And it was all so unnecessary. You don't have to be frightened. You (okay, most of you) aren't really stupid or helpless. I know you at your worst and best. I grew up with you; I shared outdoor plumbing with you; I complimented the dead deer hanging on your front porches. You can open your minds and accept or reject things on their merits instead of on their reputations in small-minded circles. You can think for yourselves.

    And some day, you might figure that out. Meanwhile, you deserve what we all got thanks to you, you bastards.

    Clif Garboden is senior managing editor of The Boston Phoenix and president of the Association of Alternative Newsweeklies. He can be reached at cgarboden@phx.com.




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    But we (those who voted for Bush) are the intolerant ones right?

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    Chris... the Boston Phoenix is a free "newspaper" that supports itself on it's advertising, it's "personals" section (you don't wanna go there) and is so insulting I wouldn't wrap the garbage in it, lest to offend the garbage!
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    Gonzo, I think it is the equivalent of the "Washington City Paper" that we have down here. The advertisements are nothing but homosexual dating services and ads for sex shops. Occasionally you will get a good historical article on something notable in the history of the Washington Area, but most of it is Lefty Drivel from the Tin-foil hat masses.
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    I agree. Liberals pride themselves on diversity, so long as it is not a diveristy of opinion. Hence you get this dribble.

    If a Republican or conservative had printed something like this, it would have been called hate speech from here to the end of the world.

    Capt. Gonzo is dead on here. The Boston Phoenix is a waste of paper and trees. While I am all for freedom of speech, this crap is printed, it is available on almost every street corner in Boston, Cambridge, and a few surrounding cities. The ads are rarely from a reputable business. Tons of kink shops, gay bars, the aforementioned "personal" ads, and other crap.

    The publisher of this rag is married to a judge who resigned last year after the good people of Massachusetts had the nerve to inquire as to why she gave a transvestite black man (race being irrelevant other than it was a fact of the case) that kidnapped a 6 year old boy, held a screwdriver to his neck demanding that the boy perform oral sex on him.
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    What scares me is that some of you actually read and know what's in these papers....
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    If that article had been published in Southern California or Tennessee, I would know who wrote it.

    I sure hope he feels better.

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    Originally posted by Bones42
    What scares me is that some of you actually read and know what's in these papers....
    Naahhh...I just look at the pictures.....hey were else can one find a transvestite, midget, amputee, prostitute?...OH! I mean "escort"....

    Has anyone seen the Village Voice here in NYC? Now that's a trip....and people actually believe that shiat....
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    What scares me is that some of you actually read and know what's in these papers....
    Funny Bones.

    You can't go to all of those street corners without looking at it at least once. Besides, the homeless in the city can use it for toilet paper.

    It is also good for a laugh. It let's you know your lofe is normal too. Well, semi normal.
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    After reading that article, I was rather dissapointed that I didnt see JEALOUSYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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    Originally posted by GeorgeWendtCFI
    If that article had been published in Southern California or Tennessee, I would know who wrote it.

    I sure hope he feels better.
    Poor Norm. So desperate to believe his stereotypes are factual.


    Have another brew. You'll feel better.
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    Originally posted by scfire86


    Poor Norm. So desperate to believe his stereotypes are factual.


    Have another brew. You'll feel better.
    ster·e·o·type n.
    A conventional, formulaic, and oversimplified conception, opinion, or image.
    One that is regarded as embodying or conforming to a set image or type


    I spent the night reviewing the hundreds of pages of stuff that you posted over the past six months. Stereotype? I think not.

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    You know what George, after reading the posted article a few times last night, I tend to agree with you. It does sound like some of the same drivel. Especially from our colleague from Al Gore's home State (That he lost.... )

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    Originally posted by GeorgeWendtCFI


    ster·e·o·type n.
    A conventional, formulaic, and oversimplified conception, opinion, or image.
    One that is regarded as embodying or conforming to a set image or type


    I spent the night reviewing the hundreds of pages of stuff that you posted over the past six months. Stereotype? I think not.
    I am flattered you spent an entire evening reviewing my terse cogent prose.

    But even more concerned over your obsession.

    What happened to make you so bitter Norm? Did your mom not pay enough attention to you as a child? Did the love of your life run off with a liberal? Why so much pent-up anger?

    I'll give you credit if you read the entire article at the start of this thread. I read about five sentences and recognized it for what it is. An inflammatory piece designed to raise the blood pressure of sad conservatives such as yourself. Much the same as someone like Sean Hannity or Ann Coulter does to my more extreme liberal friends. Too bad you couldn't see that. If you are drawing a conclusion about an entire group of people based upon one missive, the stereotypical one here is you. And you don't want me to go down the road of drawing conclusions of a group based upon the acts of a few. There is enough dirt for both gardens.

    You are a truly person that I now need to show compassion. Being angry or enraged at you isn't worth the effort.
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    Originally posted by scfire86


    I am flattered you spent an entire evening reviewing my terse cogent prose.

    But even more concerned over your obsession.

    What happened to make you so bitter Norm? Did your mom not pay enough attention to you as a child? Did the love of your life run off with a liberal? Why so much pent-up anger?

    I'll give you credit if you read the entire article at the start of this thread. I read about five sentences and recognized it for what it is. An inflammatory piece designed to raise the blood pressure of sad conservatives such as yourself. Much the same as someone like Sean Hannity or Ann Coulter does to my more extreme liberal friends. Too bad you couldn't see that. If you are drawing a conclusion about an entire group of people based upon one missive, the stereotypical one here is you. And you don't want me to go down the road of drawing conclusions of a group based upon the acts of a few. There is enough dirt for both gardens.

    You are a truly person that I now need to show compassion. Being angry or enraged at you isn't worth the effort.
    Random thoughts;

    1. The "up all night with sc" sentence was satire dude. I didn't waste five minutes re-reading your drivel.

    2. You have liberal friends more extreme than you? They are called subversives.

    3. There is not the least shred of anger or bitterness. There is a WHOLE lot of gloating.

    4. Do you ever participate in the fire protection conversations on here?

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    Is anyone concerned with the several recent events that have occured in Congress? Ie: Protecting DeLay and the "oversite" that was found in the omnibus spending bill? If the Dems had done either of these 2 things, the GOP would be HOWLING.
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    Originally posted by GeorgeWendtCFI

    Random thoughts;
    Aren't they all?


    1. The "up all night with sc" sentence was satire dude. I didn't waste five minutes re-reading your drivel.
    So now you're flip flopping? How typical.


    2. You have liberal friends more extreme than you? They are called subversives.
    Actually they're Americans. Just like you.


    3. There is not the least shred of anger or bitterness. There is a WHOLE lot of gloating.
    And who is posting about whom? Obsession is more like it. And you may want to brush up on scripture to reread why Pride is a deadly sin.


    4. Do you ever participate in the fire protection conversations on here?
    I have no problem falling asleep now. But when you see me participating in those threads you'll know insomnia has become a problem.
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    Default Re: Ready for your Morning Coffee? True feelings of the Losers in the "Blue" States!

    Originally posted by TillerMan25
    Such Profanity laced Anger from the Morons on the Left, I am glad to know people in Boston, NY, DC, San Fran, LA and Seattle hate me so much. Makes me lose sleep....
    That's how I feel about morons on the right like Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh. I fall asleep right after I have been laughing hysterically at their paranoid ramblings.
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    Originally posted by MIKEYLIKESIT
    Is anyone concerned with the several recent events that have occured in Congress? Ie: Protecting DeLay and the "oversite" that was found in the omnibus spending bill? If the Dems had done either of these 2 things, the GOP would be HOWLING.
    The DeLay thing doesn't bother me too much. I can understand how a rogue prosecutor can wreak havoc.

    However, the IRS record thing stinks to high heaven. I don't care who is responsible.

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    Originally posted by GeorgeWendtCFI


    The DeLay thing doesn't bother me too much. I can understand how a rogue prosecutor can wreak havoc.
    Or a rogue Special Prosecutor obsessed with a President's pants.
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    Originally posted by scfire86


    Or a rogue Special Prosecutor obsessed with a President's pants.

    ...or the "little" president in his pant's.....
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    I firmly believe the Democratic party is so far out of touch with the people in the heartland that make this country work that they can't even see why they lost this election.

    I for one truly enjoy elitest people telling me that if I don't follow their lead I am an ignorant hick from the sticks.

    Honestly John Kerry should have called his campaign Chameleon 2004. He changed his position more times than a chameleon changes colors. I still don't know what he really stood for. I watched the debates, I read the papers, I followed this election process closer than any ever before and other than trying to become president I don't know what Kerry was going to try and accomplish. Repeatedly I heard him say about so many topics "I have a plan" but we never heard what it was. Heck it supplied George Bush with one of his best come backs during the debates, "A liteny of complaints does not constitute a plan."

    The election is over...W one with both the popular vote and electoral college vote. Get over it and start promoting your next loser candidate, Hillary.

    By the way...I am a proud UNION member of the IAFF and that's right, I and many other firefighters without yellow t-shirts voted for Bush. I don't believe there ever was the large support for Kerry that those dozen or so yellow t-shirt FF's at every appearance of Kerry tried to imply. Perhaps for the next election our UNION might actually find out what the rank and file believe in and who they support.

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    I can see SCFire's point about this being somewhat satirical and meant to incite a bit, but the guy who wrote this really probably feels like what he writes about. A lot of Dems and libs do. I have read a lot of articles about what cost Kerry the election and many of them seem to be off base.

    Kerry represented and brought to the table many views that half of the country's population do not agree with. He was all over the map and never told me why I should vote for him, only why I should not vote for Bush. Drove me nuts. Couldn't get me to even see where he was going.

    Sadly, large numbers of people will be bitter for four years and criticize everything that is done. Many have shut up. Kerry speaks and there is a little flutter in the media. Ted Kennedy has totally shut up. I haven't seen him this quiet since he drove drunk and killed a girl. Spend the next 4 years knowing what the people of this nation REALLY want, not just a fringe percentage of the nation, but what every single citizen wants, and develop a plan that is cost efficient, right, proper, decent, and not offensive to majority of them. Then sell it to us by not being snotty, arrogant, pompous, out of touch, overbearing, and without compromising my individual rights, liberties, and freedoms and you'll win.

    Imagine that. It won't happen, but that is how you would win. Be simple and it will work. The same advice goes to the Republicans.
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    For the better part of the last year, I have looked at most of the threads here that relate to politics and the election, and not being into politics I have held my thoughts. But I feel the need (for some reason) to use this thread to put in my $.02.

    I'm not trying to start a fight, or to put my support behind one party over another. And while I appose the war in Iraq, I support our troops. And I'm also not trying to slam the people here of faith (whichever one it happens to be). You can belive whatever you want. Its still a free country (for now).

    But the sad truth is, the greatest threat to the individual freedoms we now enjoy as citizens of this great country is the Bush administartion and its allies the Christian right. Like I said above, I support your right to belive in whatever you like. I only ask that you leave me alone to belive whatever I want (or dont want).


    Dave

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