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    5-11 IN CHICAGO ON LASALLE ST AT THE LASALLE BANK FLOOR 29 OF A 42 STORY BANK. MANY SPECIAL CALLS ABOVE THE 5-11, LIVE FOOTAGE AT WWW.CBS2CHICAGO.COM -- LETS HOPE THE BROTHERS STAY SAFE TONIGHT --
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    18 victims to hospitals.

    2 Firefighters among the 18.

    I think they said the Brothers were transported in "serious condition".

    Let's keep the CFD Brothers in our thoughts and prayers.
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    The injured firefighters will be in my thoughts, hopefully they will be ok. Let's hope that the firefighters still fighting the fire will STAY SAFE!
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    oh dear god...8 ff's transported in 'red' condition
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    Unbelievable link..........fire is started up again. Pray for the Brothers.

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    Me too, Josh. Scary scary night.
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    Originally posted by stcommodore
    oh dear god...8 ff's transported in 'red' condition
    WTF is "red"? Bad as it sounds? Stay Safe brothers...
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    5-11 with 3 specials
    5-11 with 5 is the highest and they are calling this one of the biggest in chicago history
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    The newscast said 12 brothers injured 8 red (critical). What the heck happened??

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    any idea what specials are with the 5th alarm?
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    Extra rigs without a full alarm maybe?

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    The alarms only go to a 5-11

    3 specials = 8 alarms
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    My prayers are with them.

    Originally posted by stcommodore

    any idea what specials are with the 5th alarm?
    According to the Unofficial Chicago Fire Department Page, a special alarm is additional equipment requested by the IC above the 5-11 alarm. That's the same way it works around here: an alarm brings a pre-determined set of equipment, while a "special call" is either for a specific piece of equipment (such as a hazmat unit, a USAR truck, etc.) or for any additional units (for example, the IC may ask for a certain number of additional engines, trucks, etc.).

    Based on the info on the unofficial CFD site, a 5-11 alarm would bring the following equipment, not counting the specials:

    20 engine companies
    4 truck companies
    2 tower ladder companies
    1 squad company
    1 command van
    1 ambulance
    5 Battalion Chiefs
    1 Deputy District Chief
    1 District Chief
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    I believe that a 5th alarm is as high as you can go in the Chicago system. Additional equipment beyond that is a "special". WGN TV just reported that 1/3 of all on duty firefighters in the city of Chicago were on the scene. They also interviewed a fire chaplain at Northwestern Medical Center who said that the firefighters were in good condition. Let's hope he's right.

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    Isn't it amazing that in the richest country in the world, in the 21st century, that we still have hi rises in the US that are not 100% protected by sprinklers?

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    8 ff's possibly critical....


    The news mentioned a RAT (Rapid Ascent Team), acting as additional search teams, anyone with information?

    Also, suburban departments being Mutual Aided in.

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    I heard their reference to the RAT team too. But they had their info totally wrong. RAT, or Rapid Assist Team, not Rapid Ascent Team, is there to assist any FFers who may get into trouble. My departments trainers went up to Chicago to train with their department for this. The RAT team is not involved in any searches, except in the case of firefighter maydays. Once again, the news gives out half truths, but they meant well.
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    Fox News said 8 FFs and 5 Cicilians in Serious condition....... My thoughts and prayers are with the CFD and their families......

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    Thankfully the fire is now out(about 20 min ago).

    Thoughts and prayers with Chicago firefighters, as always. Pray soon those brought to the hospitals will be released soon in good condition. Unfortunately I heard there where 2 firefighters are on ventilators. Hopefully this is false, not all news reporters always have the correct information. Prayers with the families and friends.

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    Originally posted by GeorgeWendtCFI
    Isn't it amazing that in the richest country in the world, in the 21st century, that we still have hi rises in the US that are not 100% protected by sprinklers?
    ........... You would think the last High-rise fiasco would have been enough for King Richie Daley and his cronies. MR. MAYOR USE YOUR CLOUT AND RETRO FIT ALL CHICAGO HIGH RISES!
    I am 2000 miles from home, but according to reliable dispatching sources, the suburbs sent 10 engines and 10 trucks to the city for coverage under the Mutual Aid Box Alarm System. This is quite a rare occurance. The last time being a request for portable pumps in 1992 during the great downtown flood. Before that, it was 1968 during the Dr. Martin Luther King riots.
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    34 people transported, of that 22 are firefighters.from NBC 5 news

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    Dozens of people were injured, including 12 firefighters -- several of whom were transported in serious condition. Just before 11 p.m., 10 of the firefighters were upgraded to fair condition. However, two firefighters were listed in critical condition on ventilators at John H. Stroger Hospital, NBC5 reported.
    I was hoping this was bad reporting, but I've seen it pop up in a few places. Let's keep them in our prayers tonight.

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    Originally posted by GeorgeWendtCFI
    Isn't it amazing that in the richest country in the world, in the 21st century, that we still have hi rises in the US that are not 100% protected by sprinklers?

    they do. i thik every floor had 4 at least (not saying its enough but its somthin) so chances are they prob. stopped working.

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    The earlier post on the response to a 5-11 was partially right as CFD has instituted a new High Rise response. The still alarm should should have been (trying to find my printout on what exactly the response is, this if from memory):
    4 engine
    4 trucks
    1 squad
    several chiefs (unsure of how many)

    Box alarm would have been an additional:

    4 engines
    4 trucks (including a tower if not on the still)
    1 ambo
    1 ALS engine I believe
    1 Deputy District Chief
    1 Command Van
    and more assorted staff and support vehicles

    There is a RAT which is Rapid Acscent as well as a RIT which we all know what they do.

    The first special was for 4 more Truck Co.'s and 1 Squad and possibly more B/C's as my pager kind of garbled the message. This special was called after the 3-11. the 2nd and 3rd specials were after the 5-11 was struck.

    I missed the second special but the 3rd special was for 5 Engines and 5 Trucks. I believe it was at this point with several other working fires in the city that the MABAS system was activated for a 10 engine and 10 truck response to cover empty houses in Chicago. Each MABAS Division bordering Chicago was responsible for sending 2 engines and 1 truck company so as not to deplete and 1 MABAS Division. At least 1 suburban company caught a working fire as the RIT truck.If someone has better info feel free to help out.

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