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    Question Cracked faceshields. What's causing it?

    As many of you know, I currently run with a volunteer department. We use tactical tupperware, with 4" faceshields. For some time now, I have been noticing small, minute cracks appearing on top of the face shield (upper rim).

    I carry my helmet in a gear bag in the trunk of my car. I do this because there is no room to keep gear on the engine, and I don't always respond to the station (ie if I'm close to the scene). I think the heat from being inside of the trunk of my car is causing the faceshield to crack. I have already lost one faceshield, and don't want to lose anymore.

    I don't have any other place to keep my gear, so I was wondering if anyone has had the same problem. What do you think is causing the cracks? Have you had the same problem? What can I do to keep this from happening?

    I will try to get some pictures so you can see what I am referring to.
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    Lightbulb I've seen those cracks too.

    I don't think it's necessarily the heat from your trunk Bro. Does your gear get tossed around in the trunk or is it secure? I would think the cracks are from lateral compression (ie..getting crushed against something) or torsion of the shield. -46

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    Does your gear get tossed around in the trunk or is it secure?
    Nope. The bag is so heavy that it never moves inside of the trunk. Vibration may be a problem though. I wonder if that has anything to do with it.
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    not trying to be a samrt *** but get rid of the shield and get some goggles !
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    Default pardon the hijack

    Hey Weruj, I found something for ya. I figured you could put it to good use.
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    Wereuj1, which goggles do you use? I've seen those cracks in my shield before, never seen them really progress though.
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    Weruj, which set up would sugguest? I'm heavily leaning towards getting myself a Cairns 880 for Christmas. I'm not sure if I want to go with 4" faceshield, goggles (ESS?) and bourkes, or just plain goggles.

    If I get myself a 4" faceshield, and it lets go, I would have to replcace it with the cost coming out of my pocket instead of the department paying for it. I really like the way 4" protects my face. It covers all of my face, and most of the time doesn't allow anything to come through. I'm kinda skeptacle (sp) about going to goggles because I worry about getting my face cut. I've had my face cut even with the 4" down, as I'm sure many of you have. It's no picknick. Can my second pair of eyes be worn with goggles?
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    we run the ESS gogles with both the clip on and permanent mounts .....personally I liked the faceshield too but alas no more. So far so good with goggles.They are mounted on 1010's and Benny II's
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    we run the ESS gogles with both the clip on and permanent mounts
    Not quite sure what you mean here. Would you care to elaborate?
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    Lightbulb these are clip on's

    Easily removed before entering a structure fire if you desire to. Others mount semi-permenantly to the helmet and are meant to stay on it when not in use. -46
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    ya know I think i know him !
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    I was having the same problem...for me it WAS the thing getting banged around in my gear bag, and I didn't even realize that I was being that rough on it. Most of our firefighters use ESS goggles, like two use bourkes, a few of us have goggles AND shields...wear the goggles on the back in case ya need them (for extrication mostly), have the shield for other stuff. I WOULD NOT use bourkes...I mean they look great, but I'm about being safe, not looking cool.
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    I use 4" shield and a set of safety glasses from Home Depot. The shield protects most of my face and the glasses protect my eyes.
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    Hey Rich thanks for the search guy !
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    No prob Bro, use him wisely....and often.

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    Question Goggle cover?

    All new eye protection in my department is ESS goggles. As shields break, they are being replaced with goggles. I'm content with mine, I guess.

    I keep them flipped to the back of my helmet when not in use. What I need now is a way to protect them from getting scratched up. I've seen photos of a wrap-around cover with a piece of reflective material sewn to it. Does anyone have any ideas where I could find something like that? What is it called, specifically?

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    I believe it is called a "goggle garage"........and I think you can get them at Galls or www.thefirestore.com ........brb

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    Goggle garage! Thanks for the help. I knew it had a catchy name, I just couldn't think of it.

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    ESS makes a cover for the goggles....It even has reflective trim on it. I bought one at FDIC.
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    I usually end up buying one or two every year, I've dropped the helmet and broke them; hit my head and broke them; been hit by flying/falling debris.

    But I always get this wide spread cracking around the top of the shield in the center, about an inch wide, and extending down a few centimeters.. I always wondered what caused that, I figure that's why they break so easily if I hit the shield on something.

    I keep a pair of those goggle on my helmet for wildfires; and general eye protection in case my shield fails. Of course you should never depend on just your shield for eye protection. I consider the shield useful to keep sparks and flying debris away from my face, and deflect water; other than that it's just there b/c we can't take it off.
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