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    the east bend vol. fire departemnt in north carolina just recived a iso class 5 rural water supply grade for a 1 mile hose lay that produced 725 gpm with 8 personal and no mutal aid good job guys


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    how many trucks?

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    What size hose?

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    WOW, and we can barley get 1000' of 5" on our engine. That must be some rig

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    That's where you call mutual aid to RE-PACK that mile of LDH.
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    Wouldn't happen to be a TurboDraft salesman now would we?
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    we used 5 trucks

    3 engines
    1 service company
    1 hose truck

    5 inch hose

    and no i do not sale turbodrafts but we own 5 of them they work great if it was not for turbodraft we could have not done what we done

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    Exclamation It takes more than water!

    If you only used eight people who was fighting the fire?

    Seems to me it takes two to stretch the line, two to back them up, someone to run the pump, a white hat to control the scene and we haven't even started any truck work. I'll guess you are short handed so I'll only allow two for truck work. This means you have eight fighting the fire and eight engaged in water supply for a total of 16.

    In my neck of the woods, I have never seen ISO show up at a fire. Also there is no difference between a five and a six for John Doe taxpayer.

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    I am not sure they were at a fire. When ISO came to test us we had to do certain "drills" for them, i.e. get water from a dry hydrant in a certain amount of time.

    In this case, I am sure they had to prove they could achive a certain requirement with a certain number of guys, in this case 8.

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    Talking for Harve

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    I've learned alot from the "been there" "done that" guys here at my Department!

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    However at least 1/2 of them are repeating gossip they heard 5th hand. About ideas/issues with which they have had no 1st hand experience, or while in a leadership experience. A lot of privates thought marching into Bastone 60 years ago was crazy.

    Anyone that can not stand being evaluated hates ISO. Some folks are satisfied when their kids bring home Cs and Ds on their report cards. However ISO ratings set the insurance bill for homeowners, and more importantly, for businesses. Guess who pays for these BRTs. Further ISO is a pretty logical evaluation system, evaluated many of the important issues in determining the ability of FD readiness to do their job. Don't like ISO, post the evaluation system you use.

    Good for you guys for having the backbone for long lay hose and to work on improving your ISO rating. Go to your local jailer for donation of labor in picking it up. Now, increase pump size so you can move 1000gpm.

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    Originally posted by turbodraft1
    we used 5 trucks

    3 engines
    1 service company
    1 hose truck

    5 inch hose

    and no i do not sale turbodrafts but we own 5 of them they work great if it was not for turbodraft we could have not done what we done
    Were you running tanker shuttle parallel to the hose?

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    evaluated many of the important issues in determining the ability of FD readiness to do their job
    Yes, the number of cellar nozzles, hose burst jackets and hose clamps really determine our readiness.

    If ISO is so great, why do so many states no longer use it?
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    While very respectable, what was the limiting factors on the GPM moved? A single 1500gpm pump on relatively flat ground should be able to do about 33% better (1000gpm range). Two or Three 1000gpm pumpers likewise would divide up the load and deliver 1000gpm via relay.

    Size of pumps at draft?

    High lift height?

    Dry hydrant limitations?

    Long suction lines?

    Decent elevation increase to the discharge point?

    Where relay pumps in use?

    *cough* turbodraft being the bottleneck? (Great devices when hard suction won't reach though. Some water is better than none...and what they achieve 20 years ago we would've been happy campers with!)
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    we did not use tanker shuttle with this lay it was a about a 100 ft lay to the pound we used with about a 25 ft lift we used a 1000 gpm pump at the draft site could proably do a little more with larger pump. may need to look at dual lays in some areas .

    and just for some people information im sorry but if you think iso does not make you better you are really wrong.

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    and just for some people information im sorry but if you think iso does not make you better you are really wrong.
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    Originally posted by Bones42
    Yes, the number of cellar nozzles, hose burst jackets and hose clamps really determine our readiness.

    If ISO is so great, why do so many states no longer use it?

    who does not use iso now?

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