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    I bought my father a N6A for Chirstmas it came with Bourkes and cairns googles. He didn't like the googles or the bourkes so i got him the ESS system 1. I have now removed the bourkes and the black things on the side for the googles. Now my question is what do i fill the holes with? I want to try to get it back to him before saturday when he is doing some live burn evolutions.


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    Do a search you might find that altering your helmet has been discussed previously...

    Something about 'what do I fill the holes with' makes me want to tell you BE CAREFUL!! It is my understanding that a helment is certified to certain specs based on how it left the assembly line.

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    not for nothing, but does he not like the bourkes or the cairns goggles or both?

    personally, i would leave the bourkes on, as I think they add to the look of a leather helmet, without adding much weight. then just put the ESS goggles on the helmet.

    remember, they are more for show than anything else, and either goggles or safety glasses should be used as primary eye protection. as to what to fill the holes with, good question, you might want to give cairns a call and see what they recommend.
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    Originally posted by DrParasite
    not for nothing, but does he not like the bourkes or the cairns goggles or both?

    personally, i would leave the bourkes on, as I think they add to the look of a leather helmet, without adding much weight. then just put the ESS goggles on the helmet.

    remember, they are more for show than anything else, and either goggles or safety glasses should be used as primary eye protection. as to what to fill the holes with, good question, you might want to give cairns a call and see what they recommend.
    He doesn't like either(cairns google or bourkes). I have the ESS/bourkes combo and i love it. He just thinks that they bourkes get in the way.

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    Well, I really dont know what you could fill those holes in with........... but I dont see how the bourkes get in the way?? They only take up about 2 inches in the front of the helmet. I would say if he's dead set against having them on there, just to take them off and deal with the 7/16" holes.

    I personally run a N5A and have the bourkes on there, dont get in the way at all. Have ESS ICE safety glasses as primary protection.

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    just leave the screws in the holes after taking the bourkes off .

    its a helmet for fighting fire not a modeling show !! lol

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    LOL thats just what I was going to say . Leave the nuts and bolts in after lense removal.
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    J.B. weld works good for minor repairs to leather helmets. It is sandable and paintable. I personally would leave the nuts and bolts, but as anal retentive as this guy sounds he won't like that either. I would also keep the helmet until after the burn. No sense to begin the damage process at a training fire. Nothing is as abusive to a leather helmet than a training fire. Besides, thats cheating.
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    Lt. Kramer,
    As much as I would like to agree with you that training fires are cheating I must remind you that is all the fire that some of us see.

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    UFDFF, Tell your dad that he's not alone. I took the Bourkes off of my helment also. Reason? I just don't like the damn things. Period. That's all there is to it, personal opinion, human likes and dislikes. I've used goggles since I started in '58, and I still use them. IMHO, the problem with all those "Flip down" devices is that poop blows up under them, and, as someone said, you need glasses anyway. So I don't use them.
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    Iwas tickled to death when my Captain told me I could take those reched Bourkes off my helmet. They are worthless and the do get in the way. It was a pain to pull my ESS Goggles over them all the time.. and they were of no value otherwise. I simply took the mounting screw and nut and replaced them int he holes where the shields came out...
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