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    Default Law enforcement using T Imaging Camera

    Have any of you had to let law enforcement borrow or request you to use a Thermal Imaging Camera to aid in searching for someone who has "bushbonded"?


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    Default Re: Law enforcement using T Imaging Camera

    Originally posted by Flochief
    Have any of you had to let law enforcement borrow or request you to use a Thermal Imaging Camera to aid in searching for someone who has "bushbonded"?
    Cops in this area already have them, and have whop-whop birds with FLIR. They use our light and air a lot though.
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    The have their own TIC's. You may be surprised to also know that they have turnout gear, scba's, EMS equipment, halligans, battering rams, heavy responce vehicles and all the other nice stuff that we Firefighters have tested and proved to be good.

    They also have guns. We don't carry them except for investigators.




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    Originally posted by CaptOldTimer


    They also have guns. We don't carry them except for investigators.




    Well we have air guns, a big water gun on top of the engine, and a lyle gun encased in glass.
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    Must be nice to have equiped police. We work with the RCMP if they are looking for someone in the bush or for clandestine labs. It would be a simpler world if people just drank beer.......responsibly!

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    It would be a simpler world if people just drank beer.......responsibly!
    But then we would lose our job security!

    When we got our camera, we let the PD know it was available if they ever needed it. So far, it hasn't come up but we would let them use it without hesitation.

    It is probably all moot, in a few months they'll have a canine. That should handle the runners.

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    I know we have had to let our PD use the TIC before to search for people in houses. It was kind of FD/EMS related, however, in the sense that they were searching for the person because people heard screaming.
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    Not loaning it to them, but it's standard...err, required...practice for the CT State Police to request the FD with a Thermal Imager for any auto accident that there's no victims at when they arrive.

    Their first choice is a State Police canine, but if none is available on a timely basis, then the local FD gets the call (all FDs should have at least one via a State program a few years back). I suppose they could use Trooper 1's FLIR too.

    This came about about 2 years ago when there was a fatal ejection -- didn't look like that bad of a crash, and neither the Troopers nor the FD that had responded realized the victim was in the nearby brush. It was assumed he had crashed and walked away (IIRC the Trooper got there first and released FD on their arrival). Friends & Family searching found the guy a few days later.

    Since then, the CSP must conduct a search if no one is around, either by Canine or Thermal Imager.
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    We have two imagers, and our police department has used them both routinely.

    And seeing as that up until 2002 when they began to wildly propagate, we had a full 1/3 of all thermal imagers in the county(sad, I know), a lot of PDs were calling for em.
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    While on a follow up i nvestigation one night, I got called to respond to the scene of a shooting. There was a police chase and the actor had tossed the gun from the vehicle into a wooded area. I was assigned to a crime scene team to locate the weapon. Needle in a haystack, right?

    Nope, dispatched the FD with a TIC, found the gun in five minutes.

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    We've found:

    - suspects that broke into a restaraunt that were hiding 15' off the road in the woods, and were missed by non-TIC units

    - suspect that stole a car from a city south of us, and dumped it in our town... non-TIC units and canine units did not locate him ducking behind a car nearly a mile from the scene

    I think we had another "find" but I can't recall the specifics. But it's kinda funny, we've had more lucking finding bad guys than patients/victims.

    (corrected to add: we provide them to police officers, and/or cross-trained personnel... we don't go out solo!)
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    Got called to a scene after a domestic to assist pd with the tic. They had been looking for the suspect for a couple of hours with no luck. Showed local pd how to work tic and within half an hour they had suspect in custody on a dark and rainy night, they found him huddled next to a tree in the woods 150 ft from the residence where his x lived and he was armed. I stayed warm and dry with an officer in one of the squad cars.

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    Where i used to work we let the local sheriffs dept use our camera. They knew if we need it then it was there job to bring it to our scene asap. We only had one camera and most of the other county department's didnt have cameras. They used it several times. Mostly to search for suspects in dark wooded areas. Seamed to improve our working relationship with the deputies.

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    we have not yet here but I am sure if it was needed we would let them use it .I think that TPD's AIR 1 has FLIR when it is up and running.
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    We responded to a reported car fire in a residential neighborhood. No fire, but driver had blown a tire and drove home on the flat until the tire was gone and the alloy wheel reduced to nothing. PD suspected a drunk driver. Using our TIC, we could see where the driver fell on the ground after getting out of the car (which was parked half on the lawn and half on the sidewalk, missing the driveway by a good 4 feet) and crawled across the lawn and to the steps. PD rang the doorbell, asked to speak to the driver of the car, he slurred "that's me"... he still had the keys in his hand... he admitted to driving drunk and wanted to be arrested!

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    We have had the local PD call us out several times for the use of our TIC to look for people in the woods or search an area...
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    Default Local area cops

    We have responded out multiple times to assist deputies in searching for bush bound offenders, Overall I think it was a great chance to improve relations between both departments. Many officers were lame to the idea at first but now they have seen some of the benefits they are calling moreoften.

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    We have assisted our PD with ours before and they also have their own. I was surprised they got one themselves, especially since when we got ours, the PD Chief was told by one of our people that it would be available to them if they needed it and he looked at us and said "What would we need that for?!" and we walked away........
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