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    Maybe, Mikey or one of the other brothers in the Chicagoland area can help out with this one: What does the green light on the front of Chicago apparatus represent???
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    Not tying to bust on you, but this has been talked about here before. Next time try a search

    But as to your question, it comes from an early 20th century CFD chief who had been in either the navy or merchant marine. So it comes from the red and green navigation lights on ships

    And before you ask, the black roofs an the CFD aparatus comes from the 20's or 30's. They ordered a couple chiefs cars, and they came from the factory painted red with the standard (at the time) black cloth roof. The chief at the time liked the look and so they started painting the roofs of the apparatus.
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    I have always been told that the red and green lights on Chicago apparatus is to signify the port and starboard lighting found on boats and ships.
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    Thumbs down Nah.............

    Nothing to do with port and starboard. Years ago, a Chicago Firefighter got a ticket for running a red light. The Fire department promptly installed green lights on the apparatus, so they would always have a green light.
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    It is port and starboard

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    http://www.warrenvillefire.com/history2.html
    Origin of Red and Green Lights on the Fire House
    Commissioner Albert Goodrich (1927 - 1931) of the Chicago Fire Department had a nautical background. He applied the marine scheme (red light = port, green light = starboard) to fire apparatus, and the idea became a tradition of the Chicago Fire Department. It is also used to mark the bay doors at most Chicago fire stations.
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    Q: The Chicago Fire Department has many traditions. One is that a fire apparatus display a green warning light, usually on the officer's side of the apparatus. Why does it do that, and how did the tradition start?

    A: A former CFD Commissioner was a boating enthusiast. He felt it made sense so on-scene commanders could determine the direction from which the apparatus was responding.
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    one of the former Fire Chiefs had been a tug boat captain before he joined the fire deparemtnt and when he became Chief of the department he had the color schem changed to the Black over Red like the tug boats he use to captain. He also told me that this is why they have the one red & green light on all there trucks so you can tell left from right like they have the navigational lights in water ways so you stay in the channel. I hope this helps you

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    Dave must ask why the negative attitude about the search, so what if someone asks again thats what makes these a forum, IF noone ever asked the same question twice then we wouldn't have forum junkies, someone would just magically swoop down answer all the questions and then this would be like the knowledge book not the Fire house forums.

    Just seems like on a board filled with brothers here to do the same thing and learn about the same thing there is constant fighting and bickering.

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    Originally posted by FFEMT284
    Dave must ask why the negative attitude about the search, so what if someone asks again thats what makes these a forum, IF noone ever asked the same question twice then we wouldn't have forum junkies, someone would just magically swoop down answer all the questions and then this would be like the knowledge book not the Fire house forums.

    Just seems like on a board filled with brothers here to do the same thing and learn about the same thing there is constant fighting and bickering.
    Negative? Fighting and bickering? What post did you read? Most of the people on these forums would have answered with a "try searh" or "this has been discused before" or some other slam. I was trying to be nice about it, and at least I answered the question. I guess some people here just dont get it
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    sorry for the misunderstanding guess it seemed to me like you were slamming the guy for asking the question,

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    and the bickering thing, Just look around.... its over here --->

    and over there < ---- its everywhere

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    BTW, the info I have came from a dispatcher that used to work for my department. He was retired CFD (32 yrs). I also saw it on a website about the history of the CFD. It was a couple years ago and I no longer have the link
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    Exclamation Re: Green Light on Chicago Apparatus

    Originally posted by PuffyNPFD
    Maybe, Mikey or one of the other brothers in the Chicagoland area can help out with this one: What does the green light on the front of Chicago apparatus represent???









    Go to the Fire Buffs' Firehouse section and read the reports from readers on this subject. Also do a search on this subject.



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    Thanks for all the help. I had seen it on here before probably around 3 yrs. or better ago. I should have done the search but I had a brain fart. Thanks brothers.
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    idk about chicago but here in NJ green signifies command vehicle.

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    Originally posted by Maverick9110E
    idk about chicago but here in NJ green signifies command vehicle.

    Yeah?

    That happens to be in most areas of this country. The question was "Why did Chicago have RED & GREEN lights on the FRONT of their Apparatus".

    It had nothing to do with command vehicles. It is what someone else said, it has a nautical background. Red on the Port (left) and Green on the Starboard (right).

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    Originally posted by CaptOldTimer



    Yeah?

    That happens to be in most areas of this country. The question was "Why did Chicago have RED & GREEN lights on the FRONT of their Apparatus".

    It had nothing to do with command vehicles. It is what someone else said, it has a nautical background. Red on the Port (left) and Green on the Starboard (right).

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    and the bickering thing, Just look around.... its over here --->

    and over there < ---- its everywhere
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    Im a bit late on this topic, but I was wondering the same thing and i did a little research and this is what i came up with about the green lights and also the paint job.
    This is from: http://chicagofd.org/historyofthecfd.html its about 3/8 of the way down the page.


    "Fire Commissioner Goodrich's family also owned a steamship line. He was well aware of the required red and green lights on ships identifying their port & starboard sides, allowing for safe passing during inclement weather. The red and green lights were installed on fire apparatus and stations based upon this nautical theme.

    The City purchased 28 Model "A" Fords for their Battalion Chiefs. The roofs of the cars were a tar composition that could not be painted and were left black while the bottoms were painted red. This color scheme has prevailed till today. The intertwined CFD logo was adopted during this period."

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    Quote Originally Posted by PosiPete View Post
    Im a bit late on this topic, but I was wondering the same thing and i did a little research and this is what i came up with about the green lights and also the paint job.
    This is from: http://chicagofd.org/historyofthecfd.html its about 3/8 of the way down the page.


    "Fire Commissioner Goodrich's family also owned a steamship line. He was well aware of the required red and green lights on ships identifying their port & starboard sides, allowing for safe passing during inclement weather. The red and green lights were installed on fire apparatus and stations based upon this nautical theme.

    The City purchased 28 Model "A" Fords for their Battalion Chiefs. The roofs of the cars were a tar composition that could not be painted and were left black while the bottoms were painted red. This color scheme has prevailed till today. The intertwined CFD logo was adopted during this period."



    Go to post 6 and see what is said there, about the same as yours.
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    I think it is pretty sad there is so much information passed out that is just so wrong.

    http://www.firehouse.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66113 (Green Light on Chicago Apparatus)

    has the definitive word on this question. Check it out.

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    Search function kinda sucks sometimes. Lay off with the "try a search" comments. They are old and ridiculous. Get off your high horse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptOldTimer View Post
    Go to post 6 and see what is said there, about the same as yours.
    I saw what it said in post 6 and the part about the red and green lights was basically the same but the part about the black and red is different. I just posted the link and the info i found to add some credibility, however that still could be wrong, but out of any other sites to search, i would believe a site dedicated to the history of the cfd more than what others found on a forum from some other website where a bunch of people wrote a story that somebody else told them. Just trying to help the discussion.

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