Help fire tactics in sewer?

[psilentchild]

Does anybody know where I can find some info on how to fight fire in sewer drains?

[FFFRED]

I'm assuming you are speaking of Stormwater drains and not Manholes.

If this is a case I've always found the nearest hydrant uphill from the drain and opened it fully, flooding the burning material below.

FTM-PTB

[firewally1966]

about ten years ago we had manholes blowing off...found gasoline in the sewers...we set up an engine at a manhole cover and started pumping foam into the sewer...then we followed the manholes ..looking into each one...we followed them north until we found one with no gas in it...then followed it back south to a gas station that had taken delivery of gas and pumped it to a storage facility ...via underground piping...later found that the pipe used to pump from the station to the storage container had burst and allowed gasoline to leak into the sewers

[psilentchild]

yes manhole

[psilentchild]

Where can I get some info to teach a class?

[FFFRED]

Well bro, Manholes are much different than sewer drains.

What do you have in the manholes you speak of?...are there...

-Transformer vaults?
-Phone Company terminals and equipment?
-Electric cable conduits?
-Building service access via counduit?
-Distribution or Service Cables?

I think the book "Responding to Routine Emergencies" by Chief Frank Montagna. is a good resource for you to aquire. There is a small section on Manhole fires in there.
Also, although it is NY specific the FDNY AUC 180 on Manhole fires would be a great reference source for anyone looking for safe guidelines on operating at these fires.

Also contact your local utility. They should help.

FTM-PTB