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    Default THIS COULD GET REAL STICKY REAL FAST

    Male contraceptive could bring another sexual revolution

    Bruce Ward CanWest News Service Saturday, February 05, 2005

    OTTAWA -- It's called an IVD, and by the end of the decade it may be to male birth control what the iPod is to music geeks.

    The Intra Vas Device has the potential to bring about a societal shift by transferring the responsibility for birth control from women to men.

    The IVD -- the world's first implantable male contraceptive -- is being billed as a reversible alternative to permanent vasectomy and is anticipated to provide contraceptive effectiveness comparable to the IUD and the birth control pill.

    The IVD works something like a vasectomy, only better, explains Dr. Neil Pollock, Vancouver's top vasectomy surgeon and a partner in Shepherd Medical, the U.S. company that owns the patents for the IVD.

    "The big bonus that we are anticipating this device will have is the reversibility. Whereas with vasectomy, it's a complex three to four-hour microsurgery, expensive, and with limited success rates."

    The IVD -- a 2.5-centimetre hollow silicone plug -- is implanted into the vas deferens tubes to block the flow of sperm from the testicles to the penis.

    Implanting the IVD involves accessing the vas deferens tubes, much like a vasectomy. But rather than cutting and cauterizing the tubes, which permanently damages them, only a small opening is made in each tube. The tubes are then capped with silicone plugs. The seven-minute procedure is carried out under local anesthetic in a doctor's office.

    The IVD can later be removed in a procedure similar to its insertion, thereby re-establishing sperm flow.

    Although men are a tough sell when it comes to contraceptives, the device could revolutionize the multibillion dollar birth-control industry.

    Shepherd Medical has been given a $1.4 million grant from the U.S. National Institutes of Health for clinical trials on humans. The clinical study is expected to begin this year, pending Food and Drug Administration investigational device exemption approval.

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    Default Re: THIS COULD GET REAL STICKY REAL FAST

    The seven-minute procedure is carried out under local anesthetic in a doctor's office.
    Umm. No thank you.
    Even the burger-flippers at McDonald's probably have some McWackers.

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    This is not a whole lot different than a vasectomy. I am not going to have a vasectomy, but do you have the same response to those?

    Male birth control is going to be a big deal. I'll take it, I don't want kids, so it is fine for me and my wife. Single men that don't want them either can go for male birth control. It's just another option.

    Although most of the research that I have seen has gone into oral contraceptives for men. Sign me up man.
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    Default Re: Re: THIS COULD GET REAL STICKY REAL FAST

    Originally posted by nmfire


    Umm. No thank you.
    Oh, come on. It only takes seven minutes. It'll be over before you know it!

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    Default Hmmmmmmm.......

    Seven minutes, local anesthesia and the cost of the procedure vs. the over $100K it takes to raise a child today, or the potential loss of income due to paternity suits...
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    The longest seven minutes of my life.
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    Steve...self portrait?
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    Wimps...

    At least none of ya'll actually have to worry about HAVING the kids! I can't see not running fire calls for 9 hours, much less 9 months. That would be like, I don't know, just not a good situation. Haha think a preganat woman is bad...I'm sure one who is a firefighter would be much worse. I know how I get now when I have to miss a call...
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    Hope that plug doesn't break free and go with the flow...ouch.

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    Until that can stop the HIV, it really will not reopen the sexual revolution.
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    LOL....dont you people have anything else to do besides b*tch about our b*tching?

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    Sign me up. Seriously, I am in
    After you Bou, after you
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    Default Well...

    Originally posted by martinm


    After you Bou, after you

    Actually- I am 34 with no kids and dont want any.
    So, next month, I am going to go get snipped.
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    Before you have it done, ice down a couple of 12 packs real good. Then when you get home, drink one of them while you're sitting on the other.

    Things should be ok by the time the alcohol wears off, and everything else "thaws out".
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    Originally posted by Steamer
    Before you have it done, ice down a couple of 12 packs real good. Then when you get home, drink one of them while you're sitting on the other.

    Things should be ok by the time the alcohol wears off, and everything else "thaws out".

    Good idea. Except I have to drive there sober and return
    home the same. I will have to do this proceedure on a
    4 day.

    -Bou

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    Hey Bou, I admire your decision to have the snip. I have been considering the matter myself for a little while now.

    On the day you go for the op, don't do what someone I know of did and ride his bicycle to the hospital...

    It was a nice day, and instead of driving to the op, he decided that he would get the bike out of the garage and tootle down there on that. It was only half and hours ride after all. The op went well and everything was sown up and what have you and my friend got back on his bike and pedalled home...the local anasthetic wore off about 5 minutes from his house and his wife found him 2 hours later propped up against the garage door, too much in pain to be able to the get off the bike himself...
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    Default Re: Thanks..

    Originally posted by CALFFBOU



    Good idea. Except I have to drive there sober and return
    home the same. I will have to do this proceedure on a
    4 day.

    -Bou
    Bou, I think you misunderstood. He's saying make sure the beer is on ice (at home in your refridgerator) before you leave for the appointment. Than, after you get back home, sit on 1 12-pack to numb your junk and drink the other one.......
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    LOL..........I am not gonna give him any pictures ........
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    Default Re: Re: Thanks..

    Originally posted by firenresq77
    Bou, I think you misunderstood. He's saying make sure the beer is on ice (at home in your refridgerator) before you leave for the appointment. Than, after you get back home, sit on 1 12-pack to numb your junk and drink the other one.......
    Thnaks bro- I got that part. I was planning on using the
    cold cans as dual purpose.

    I so cant wait to get this done. No "mini-me's" running
    around.

    -Bou

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