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    What kind of background checks do most departments give. I know there is they check for criminal records and such, but does anybody administer polygraphs and things like that for background checks?
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    We do criminal through the State Police, local police, plus your credit record, DMV records, military records and your high school and college.

    The police does the polygraph.

    If you are trying to hide something, it will come out in the checks.
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    We also do a local and state check. However, this may not be effective in all cases, especially if the person has a record from out of state.
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    Ours are done through the RCMP so its a national check, Calgary fire has a polygraph test for its recruits.
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    Originally posted by CaptOldTimer


    The police does the polygraph.

    If you are trying to hide something, it will come out in the checks.
    Polygraph checks for firefighters?

    Just in case you were all wonderin', I don't really care, cause I don't have anything to hide. I am asking for a friend that wants to be a firefighter, but has a slight history. He didn't openly say it but I think it has to do with arson. When he turns 18 his record can be sealed, but he read that some departments give polygraph tests, and wanted to know if it was true. Arson sure is one thing I'd try to hide.
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    Guess who does our entrance process polygraphs? Our Arson Investigators! I would hope your friend answers every question truthfully. Some mistakes of youth can be dealt with, but there is no excuse for being an outright liar. Trying to fool the investigator is a sure way of never getting hired.

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    All background checks are conducted by the police department. My department also checks with any other Fire/EMS organization that the applicant belonged to.

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    I have answered this many times before. The answer remains the same. Here are a few points.

    1. Pre-emplpyment polygraphs are illegal in some states. They are illegal in NJ. Illegal meaning the employer is not even allowed to suggest it. The polygrpah is a wonderful tool, but it is only as good as the operator.

    2. The same with a background check. The background check is only as good as the person doing it.

    3. CCH, DMV and NLETS checks will only show you what the candidate got caught doing.

    4. An effective background check starts with a comprehensive application that would include references, past employers, past FD's and a consent to release information.

    5. The person conducting the background check needs to contact ALL of the sources on the app.

    6. You're not looking for dirt or personal opinion. You are looking for honest answers to objective questions.

    7. Of course, the applicant will only put down references on the app that he believes will be positive for him. The person conducting the background check can expand this info by asking the references to note another person who may know the applicant. Also, a canvas of the neighborhood where the applicant lives or lived would likely turn up good information as well.

    8. Do not rely on written responses from a reference. There must be an interview. In person, if practical.

    9. Many employers will not provide specifics about an employee's performance...especially if it is negative. One question that should get a telling response-"Would you hire ______ again"?

    10. Did I mention that I am fully in favor of psychological examinations for prospective FF?

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    10. Did I mention that I am fully in favor of psychological examinations for prospective FF?
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    Originally posted by SAFD46Truck
    Guess who does our entrance process polygraphs? Our Arson Investigators! I would hope your friend answers every question truthfully. Some mistakes of youth can be dealt with, but there is no excuse for being an outright liar. Trying to fool the investigator is a sure way of never getting hired.
    Of course the truth is always better. I'd say he's $crewed though. I now that people can change and go from wrong to right, but I doubt a department would let someone on who has been convicted of arson.
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