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    Default One Piece Structure Fire Jumpsuit?

    Is there such a thing that complies to US regs?

    I have seen them used with non US fire Services, are there any that are used in the US?

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    I found a jumpsuit on fire-end.com made of PBI heres the link.

    http://www.fire-end.com/Navy-Guard1.html

    Not sure if I would wear a jumpsuit though, might be too restrictive, the freedom of the jacket moving and pant moving in regular turnout gear is too comfortable.

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    Thanks Beau.

    I agree that a one piece is probly not as good as the two piece. The question came up in a discussion we were having in regaurds to our wildland ppe.

    We used to have oncepiece wildland/extractaion jumpsuites, nobody complained or knew any better.

    We got a small grant and switched over to 2 piece advance wildland gear. Much much better. The 2 piece breaths better and such.

    We then got to wondering if anybody used a one piece structure PPE???

    I guess so, but I dont think they are very popular at all.

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    Seem to remember there was a vendor (one of those smaller co's) in the mid 90's that offered a one piece structural FF'ing jumpsuit. It was made of Nomex, had some pockets & reflective trim...don't think they ever sold any, at least not for structural work.

    Bad thing with a jumpsuit is heat tends to get trapped in the garment...now this happens with bunker gear too but at least you can take off the coat to release some of the heat. The reality is when you send a person into an atmosphere that's 500+ degrees, they are going to suffer heat stress no matter what their level of physical conditioning.

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    One of our Neighboring departments, their Chief wears one. They also have those fighter pilot helmets too. Talk about a funny sight. When we call the for mutual aid, its like NASA came instead. Too funny.

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    Default I think...

    I think the one piece came and left with the safety-lime
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    I also recall seeing them but cant recall the maker .........it is weird that the 2 piece esemble we think of as safer then the jumpsuit .....know what? I agree and dont really know why ...
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    The navy uses them, the ones that they have are from Janesville and I think also from Globe

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    I recall a neighboring department using them a few years ago (mid 90's, maybe). At first we thought it was pretty cool, you could get dressed out quicker. But then thinking about it, it's hard to cool down and rehab because you can't just take off your coat. Seems like some restriction in mobility as well. I don't think we'd care for them, and I don't know if they're still available. I also seem to recall that the neighboring department that had them discovered that they didn't like them much either.
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    Question...most people have brought up about taking off your coat with a two piece system being an advantage to rehab and the like. This isn't directly relevent but when I go deer hunting I have a one piece snowsuit...what I do if I get too warm is I take my arms out of the snowsuit and tie the sleeves around my waist. What is preventing someone in a jumpsuit from doing this. One step furthur on that is if your in rehab your not goin anywhere fast, so why not just take the jump suit down to your knees?

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    Hm..I think those Jumpsuit style turnouts were called "Vestal suits" after Vestal, NY? Maybe someone from that neck of the woods could enlighten us or find out from a Vestalite what the skinny is.
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    I have a couple sets of these. A local industrial fire brigade had some that they ordered and never used them. I won't use them for firefighting, because the fit isn't the best, but they're good for cold weather stuff. Shovelling snow, snowmobiling, etc....
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    The Navy still uses these. they are so freekin hot its not even funny. Navy still uses OBA's to so go figure!
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    Ya I know the Navy still uses OBA's but they are proven to work for shipboard use and they tend to be safer in a combat enviorment than a Scott or Msa system. I know that when something happens in that enviorment the last thing I want to have to worry about is the small rocket motor attached to my back or sitting in a DC locker or even in the passageways of the ship. Most of the ships have went to eather MSA or Scott depending on who has the current contract with the D.O.N. 1 of the main reasons that they use the one peace jumpsuits is so that you can get into the escape scuttles with out the jacket part comming up and leaving you open to getting burns on your back and chest. And back to the OBA issue you can get through a scuttle with an OBA but you can't with a Scott or MSA pack on. You have to take it off and then go through.

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    Yep...I bought one back in the 90's and thought that this was the best thing ever made. Boy was I wrong!!! When the suit gets wet all the weight rest on your shoulders and the fatigue factor is tremendous. I currently only use it for training exercises (maybe). It is made to NFPA specs and is approved for structural firefighting.

    As for removing the upper half during rehab it can be accomplished by allowing the upper half to hang from the waist. When you want to get out of the suit it sometimes requires 2 people to remove it (the more sweat the more difficult to remove). Not worth a flip for overhaul. Still recommend the traditional two piece ensamble for firefighting.

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    Default I liked them

    I used them during shipboard training in Newport R.I. “No I am not in the NAVY nor was I” I liked the one piece. It does the job and is about as 1 size fits all as you can get for fire gear. Remember on a ship. You have hundreds if not thousands of moderately to expertly trained people on ship that are trained in Fire Suppression. Most have other jobs then Fire Fighting. These teams may be headed to there staging points from all over the ship. So having Gumby suits is much more practical then having custom made form fitted gear.
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