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    Holy trolling Batman!
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    LOL....dont you people have anything else to do besides b*tch about our b*tching?

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    807,Not even close to accurate information.We've got a TRUE custom sitting right in bay one at Central station.Every compartment and dimension was from OUR spec.The truck was paid for upon delivery to the factory,the completed rig was paid for upon the successful passing of it's acceptance test. You get what YOU SPEC,if your builder can't/won't produce what you spec,find another builder. T.C.

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    Default Re: How to buy a new rig... And get what you want!

    Originally posted by Firefighter807
    1. Review all the manufacturers you are interested in.
    2. Choose ONE manufacturer and build your truck around their product line. Since no manufacturer will shear sheet metal to suit you and compromise their building practice, get the idea out of your head that you have the ability to make a truly CUSTOM rig.
    3. Have them give you a price. Negotiate it!
    4. Go to the powers that be and get the financing.
    5. Screw competitve bidding... It's a sham anyway! Wastes the time of the salesmen from the companies you don't want.
    6. Order your rig.
    7. Live happily ever after!
    Haha, either the salesman that you dealt with really scammed you, and put you in the mind-set that no manufacturer will do custom work for you, or you're a troll. I'm leaning towards the latter.
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    Default Re: Re: How to buy a new rig... And get what you want!

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    Haha, either the salesman that you dealt with really scammed you, and put you in the mind-set that no manufacturer will do custom work for you, or your a troll. I'm leaning towards the latter.
    Well it looks like he hooked one!
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    Default Re: Reeling them in!

    Originally posted by Firefighter807


    Oh really now... Come on... who on your department is fire apparatus engineer?

    BS - Manufacturers who meet you EXACT compartment requirements must be using a rubber ruler.

    Quit the crap! Order what you want and forget the headaches!
    Hey buddy, are you on crack?? You just told everyone in your first post NOT to order what you want, and stick with what the manufacturer offers, and now your telling us to "Order what you want and forget the headaches!" I don't know about everyone else, but your mindless chatter is giving me a headache!! Anyone who cant get a manufacturer to build what THE DEPARTMENT wants shouldnt be on a truck committee, bottom line.

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    Question Re: How to buy a new rig... And get what you want!

    Originally posted by Firefighter807
    1. Review all the manufacturers you are interested in.
    2. Choose ONE manufacturer and build your truck around their product line. Since no manufacturer will shear sheet metal to suit you and compromise their building practice, get the idea out of your head that you have the ability to make a truly CUSTOM rig.
    3. Have them give you a price. Negotiate it!
    4. Go to the powers that be and get the financing.
    5. Screw competitve bidding... It's a sham anyway! Wastes the time of the salesmen from the companies you don't want.
    6. Order your rig.
    7. Live happily ever after!

    Who in your department are you all in bed with, with this dealer???

    Did he or she kiss you? Probably should have, cause I think somebody is getting a screwing!!!!

    You guys have lots to learn about spectfication writing and request for bids.

    I have an old comet auto for sale, if you guys are interested. It was only driven on Sundays, back and forth to church!!!


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    Say Old Timer,you aren't or the Comet isn't by any chance from Pasedena? hehe T.C.

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    Originally posted by Rescue101
    Say Old Timer,you aren't or the Comet isn't by any chance from Pasedena? hehe T.C.
    Sorry wrong coast. I am on the right coast!
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    "screw the competitive bidding"

    I don't know what state you're in but here in NY state the Attorney General, State Comptrollers office and Office of General services might take exception to that policy. A local department did that when a condo developer offered to buy them a rig, the state found out and the Village (not just the FD) Police Dept, DPW... could not purchase from the state contract pricing for a period of like 3 years. Everything they bought they had to bid themselves under the eye of the Attorney General.

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    This is a pointless thread.
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    I believe that municipalities must use it unless it is declared an "emergency" .........and you can choose to throw out any bids that dont meet your spec.......I dont get this poster at all.
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    I guess someone is trying to justify their "state bid" or program truck to us.......

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    WHAT THE HELL!!!???

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    Dang, trolling this lake he caught a ton!
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    I think someone got boned!
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    Default Re: Writing the Specs...

    Originally posted by Firefighter807
    I have reviewed hundreds of fire engine specs in my 20 plus year career.

    Fire departments need to quit getting into the minutia of frame rail RBM, body material technical specs, or number of mils of the paint thickness (which they don't have the technical understanding of anyway)and concentrate on telling the manufacturer what they want the rig to do, they would get a rig that would perform the job they need it to do.

    I say let the manufactrurer determine the building details and the way to accomplish your tasks with their vehicle. You tell them the performance standards. Find the manufacturer you like and stick with them. Loyalty is a two way street and until Jesus is buidling fire engines, you are going to have troubles with them. Good fire engines aren't cheap and visa versa.
    For someone with 20+ years of experience, it sure sounds like someone pulled the wool over your eyes a long time ago.


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    Manufacturer: "Well of course I can, just sign here"

    Truck committee: "Duhhh, well okie dokie artichokie, but please make a good truck"

    Manufacturer: "Dont you worry, we will"


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    Originally posted by firenresq77
    I think someone got boned!

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