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    Default Toledo Fire & Rescue E-7 involved MVA

    Heard E-7 was invloved in an MVA while going on a first alarm SFD assignment. E-7 was heard to have rolled over trapping the chauffer and officer. I am going into work and I am sure that 77 or myself will update as we get info. Unknown seriousness of injuries..........
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    HERE is a link to the story from WTOL......

    Don't believe the truck rolled. Very heavy damage done to the engine. I believe all 4 FFs had to be extricated. Can't say for sure on the injuries.....

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    http://cms.firehouse.com/content/art...Id=46&id=40062

    FH.com has it on the homepage now.......
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    HERE is an updated article from Channel 24..........


    Toledo Firefighters Hurt in Fire Truck Crash
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    (Toledo, OH) --- Four Toledo firefighters have been hurt when their fire truck crashed into a power pole and a tree at the intersection of Bancroft and Ashland Streets in the Old West End.

    Toledo Fire Chief Mike Bell tells NBC24 that their injuries do not appear to be life threatening.

    According to Bell, the fire truck was responding to a call of an explosion in a West Toledo garage. The crew was following behind another emergency vehicle when two cars pulled in front of their path.

    "That made them have to change course, which they did, in order to do the least harm to people in the streets at the time," said Chief Bell

    According to Bell, the driver of the fire truck swerved to avoid one car, but collided with another vehicle. The crash was felt for a block.

    "I heard an explosion, big explosion. I turned and saw the fire truck turned over," said Selena Maurer who was close to the crash scene when it happened.

    Chief Bell said the fire truck lost it's air brakes, power steering and slammed into a power pole and a tree. Extra rescue crews were dispatched to help rescue the firefighters.

    "This is extremely stressful when four of your own." said Chief Bell.

    Two of the firefighters in the mangled truck got out and started helping in the rescue effort.

    The driver of one of those cars has also been taken to the hospital with non-life-threatening injuries.

    Traffic at Bancroft and Ashland was blocked as power crews try to repair dangling electric lines.

    Bell held a press conference at St. Vincent Medical Center shortly before 4:30 p.m.

    NBC24 has learned the conditions of the four firefighters injured in the crash. Brian Schoen and Thomas Marciniak were treated and released while Michael Durand and Matt Viertlbeck are both listed in fair condition.

    NBC24 News with have a complete report at 11 p.m.

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    And another link from 13abc....... They have some decent pics on there....... Shows how the cab was knocked off the chassis........


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    Darn lucky that they weren't killed, especially the officer.

    Best wishes for a speedy recovery for our neighboring brothers.
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    I hear all members will be OK, no change on their injuries that were reported on the news. Thank God they were OK. The damage to E7 was incredible, when I saw the damage to the rig on the news, you could not help but think the worst. I can think of how many close calls we had driving to alarms, this is truly the most dangerous thing we do on a regular basis. Thats why I always preach on the WTFD that only the experienced FF's drive these big rigs to calls in today's traffic, I get so PO'd when I hear a Captain tell me they let rookie so and so drive the engine to a call when the only training they had was driving the rig around the block a few times. There is no formal drivers training in any state certification courses, most departments have to go get it on their own.

    I also say thanks to E-One for building a quality fire engine that kept these FF's from very serious injuries. I have always thought they build a good quality equipment, now I truly believe it and see why they are the biggest and the best. I always liked the idea when we went to the motors in the front of the engines cab such as E7's design, its works as a berrier when you have one of these front collision type accidents, I always hate sitting in a custom cab design with no protection in front of you but the window and a small bumper, no protection at all. I think the cab design of E7 helped save their lives.

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    Thumbs up update ......................

    http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs...WS01/503110446

    4 firefighters, motorist hurt in collision on Bancroft Street
    Trapped crew members are rescued


    Rescuers extract their colleagues from the wreckage of a fire truck that struck a tree and a pole after colliding with a car.
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    By CHRISTINA HALL
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    Four Toledo firefighters and a woman were hurt yesterday when a fire engine, responding to a blaze, and a car collided at Ashland Avenue and Bancroft Street.
    For 30 minutes, other Toledo firefighters crawled atop the truck's mangled metal, trying to extricate their four colleagues from the vehicle, which, after the initial impact, crashed into a tree and sheared off a power pole.

    Fire Lt. Michael Duran and firefighters Tom Marciniak, Brian Schoen, and Matt Viertlbeck suffered nonlife threatening injuries in the crash that occurred while they were responding to a blaze at 4748 Violet Rd.

    Their engine, No. 7, which was following a heavy rescue squad from the same station, collided with the car at 1:50 p.m. All were westbound on Bancroft.

    The car's driver, Marcedes McDuffey, 20, of Homer Avenue, stopped for the rescue squad. She said she didn't hear the fire engine even though both rigs had their lights and sirens on, police Officer Dave McClellan said.

    He said Ms. McDuffey, who may have been on a cell phone, pulled in front of the engine. The rig hit the driver's side of the car, which spun.

    The engine continued westbound and avoided several other vehicles.

    "I looked out and saw the fire truck bouncing down the street and smoking," said Regina Warren, who works at the American Petroleum gas station at the intersection.

    The engine driver, Mr. Marciniak, lost the air brakes and steering and the rig then slammed into the pole and the tree, Fire Chief Mike Bell said.

    "All you could see was dust and smoke," said Terrance Johnson, 35, who saw the crash from a nearby market.

    Mr. Marciniak and Mr. Schoen, who was in the back seat, freed themselves and began to help their colleagues while inside the damaged truck. Meanwhile, firefighters in the rescue squad - whose job it is to extricate people trapped inside vehicles - saw the accident in their rear-view mirror, radioed for help, turned around, and began the rescue effort.

    Lieutenant Duran, 45, and Mr. Viertlbeck, 29, were in fair condition at St. Vincent Mercy Medical Center. Mr. Marciniak, 55, and Mr. Schoen, 34, were treated at the hospital.

    Ms. McDuffey was treated at Toledo Hospital, police said.

    The accident remains under investigation.

    Authorities believe the engine is a total loss. A new fire truck costs between $250,000 and $300,000. A spare truck will be used at station No. 7.

    The accident cut power to 919 customers in the area. Power was restored last night.
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    Here's a pic from the Blade........

    http://ohiofirefighters.com/p8/311.jpg
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    I found out today that Lt. Duran and Matt were both released from the hospital....... I think Mike is going to need surgery for his Tib-Fib, and Matt, I believe, got like 18 stitches........
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    Default Update !

    Driver who hit fire truck uninsured
    North Toledo woman has 5 traffic cases pending

    By CHRISTINA HALL
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    A North Toledo woman whose car collided with a city fire engine, injuring herself and four firefighters and totalling the rig, was driving without insurance.
    Marcedes McDuffey, 20, of 1025 Homer St. was cited yesterday for failure to yield to an emergency vehicle for the crash Thursday in central Toledo. Although her driver's license is valid, she had four prior suspensions for noncompliance for failing to show proof of insurance to the state, Toledo police Officer Dave McClellan said.

    Toledo Municipal Court records show she has five pending 2004 traffic cases, including speeding, driving with a suspended license, use of fictitious license plates, and failure to display license plates.

    A police check of her cell phone record showed she was not using the phone when the collision with engine No. 7 occurred at Ashland Avenue and Bancroft Street. Ms. McDuffey, who is unemployed, did use the phone to call 911 after the accident, Officer McClellan said.

    City officials are uncertain what they will do about replacing the engine, which slammed into a pole and a tree after the collision. Deputy Fire Chief Bob Metzger said Ms. McDuffey's car hit the engine in just the right spot to cause the accident.

    "She hit a vulnerable part of the rig," he said.

    Ms. McDuffey, who had the green light westbound on Bancroft, pulled over at Ashland for a westbound heavy rescue squad that was responding to a fire. She didn't see or hear the engine that followed and pulled away from the curb. The wheel of the engine collided with her car, which hooked onto the truck's step-up area and moved with the rig about 15 feet, Officer McClellan said.

    Her rear passenger tire then hit a curb, knocking her car off the engine. Her car shot across the eastbound lane and the engine continued westbound without steering or brakes.

    "They were like a rocket going down the street," Officer McClellan said. "One of the [firefighters] said the steering wheel was just spinning."

    Chief Metzger said authorities speculate that when the collision occurred, the engine's steering linkage separated behind the wheels, impairing the driver's ability to steer the rig. The front axle collapsed, went under the rig, and tore the air line for the air brakes, the chief speculated.

    He said the engine had no mechanical problems and was checked recently during regularly scheduled maintenance.

    Eleven-year firefighter Lt. Michael Duran and Matt Viertlbeck, a nearly five-year firefighter whose father was battling the blaze to which he was en route when the crash occurred, were released yesterday from St. Vincent Mercy Medical Center. Both declined interviews.

    Tom Marciniak, a 30-year veteran and respected rig driver, and Brian Schoen, a 14-year firefighter, were released from the hospital Thursday. Neither they nor Ms. McDuffey, who was treated at Toledo Hospital, could be reached for comment.

    Like many of his colleagues, Lt. Mike Maraldo of station No. 5 downtown thought the worst when he arrived at the scene.

    "It's usually the other way around, the vehicle's destroyed and the fire truck has minor damage. I don't know that anybody was prepared for what they saw on that scene," he said.

    Nonetheless, rookies to veterans did what they were trained to do and did it under the most adverse conditions - multiple victims, downed power lines, puddles of diesel fuel, a smoking engine, and a large crowd.

    A firefighter held Mr. Marciniak, who stood on a seat in the rig and held Lieutenant Duran in his arms as other firefighters freed his pinned leg.

    "The second rig notoriously is the more dangerous rig to be in. People assume when [the] first truck passes there are no more. [Fire] drivers expect that," he said. "But it's very rare we don't travel in packs."

    Contact Christina Hall at
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    Glad the brothers are out of the hospital and on the road to recovery.

    As far as the no insurance and shady driving record of the woman who caused the wreck....not much of a suprise there.
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    best wish to them. hope they are all up and moving soon

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