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    Default Does your department provide dress uniforms

    I know this is a strange question, but how many department provide dress uniforms for thier members?

    I was thinking about it, and they are really expensive. and yet, departments provide them for members, when there are very few times they will actually be worn. plus, in a time of shrinking budgets, departments are spending money on uniforms that don't have an effect on normal operations.

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    Your Federal taxes pay for Dress Uniforms for the Military and they don't wear those to war or have an effect on normal operations either.

    If members aren't issued Class A's what would you wear to Medal Day Ceremonies, Memorials, Parades, Funerals, offical Dept celebrations, public speaking in front of community boards, civic organizations?..etc.

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    my dept does not provide dress uniforms the only thing we get is a blue shirt. hell I have been waiting over a year for turnout gear. right now if i go on a fire call i have to just use someone elses that is not on scene, usually I find it is huge about 3-4 sizes bigger lol or way to small.

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    They give us a long sleave shirt and a tie, does that count?
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    Issued 1 long sleeve shirt and 1 pair of dress pants.No hat, tie or coat.

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    We are a combination department. Our career staff and line officers are issued Class A's. Other volunteers get pants and a button up shirt.
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    Our department bought dress shirts with all the patches, brass, etc and ties. We furnish the pants and shoes, no jackets.
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    Default Re: Does your department provide dress uniforms

    Originally posted by DrParasite
    I know this is a strange question, but how many department provide dress uniforms for thier members?

    I was thinking about it, and they are really expensive. and yet, departments provide them for members, when there are very few times they will actually be worn. plus, in a time of shrinking budgets, departments are spending money on uniforms that don't have an effect on normal operations.
    In a para-military organization the properl prescribed use of a dress uniform can be used to instil pride, order and disapline.

    Should a department be using resources on dress uniforms when they can't get all operational personel turn out gear? No. Should they get them once operational items are aquired? I would say yes for the disapline that they can help instill in a department.
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    We're volunteers.
    We're not suppose to have dress uniforms.
    We're suppose to wear clothes that are whack!
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    This has been debated around our firehall for a while now. Most of the senior crew want them, but we have such high turnover that it would be far too expensive for our dept to keep up. I probably could afford to invest in some for the Chief and Line Officers, but I don't want the rest of the senior crew to feel slighted.

    Without hijacking this, do any departments either expect thier staff to buy thier own, or provide a partial subsidy?
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    Every firefighter and officer gets $875 a year for a uniform clothing allowance and is expected to have a well fitting dress uniform.

    Everyone should make it a habit to check theirs quarterly to make sure that it didn't "shrink" while in storage!
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    My dept gives us $625 a year for uniforms. We are not required to get Dress uniforms but the chief organizes 3 - 5 "Class A" events a year. I dont personally have one because our uniforms are very expensive ($110 for one pair of pants, $95 for one shirt) I buy two to three pairs of pants a year because they fade so quickly. We are also expected to buy our own boots (wildland and station, not turnout). So you can see that $625 does not get the dress uniforms (ours are about $600 for the pants, shirt, jacket, hat, and shoes)
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    Dress uniforms come out of the Company funds, which are generated via fundraising efforts. FF equipment comes out of the FD budget, which is a tiny little way too small amount of the town budget.
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    Vol. Dept.:

    One hat
    One jacket
    One pair of pants
    One belt buckle
    One pair of white gloves
    One short sleeve blue shirt (summer events -- mostly parades).
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    We have to buy our own white shirt and black tie -- worn with the jacket and pants, and our own shoes.

    We also get a "winter coat" though it's not a dress coat, once off probation.

    The gloves are replaced more frequently since they get lost, otherwise unless your size really changes, you can have the same uniform for a few years.

    If you're new/probie, you get to pick what's in the closet (I had to hem the pants a few inches when I first joined).
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    The primarily volunteer department I am on now provides a shirt and a shield, and you are expected to provide a pair of blue slacks and black shoes/boots for "dress-up events", which is rare (basically just fire prevention programs and community events as we rarely "parade").

    The volunteer department I last served on it Vermont provided:
    Pants: 1 pair dress, 1 pair work
    Shirts: 2 dress (long and short sleeved), 1 work
    Hat: dress
    Shoes: dress
    Brass: shield, collar brass
    Other: Gloves, Tie, belt, casual "official" jacket

    Probably half of the 8 departments I have been on have provided a dress uniform fairly close to this (one even provided a Class A blouse), and the other half provided no dress unuiform.

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    The following list is comprised of items that are supplied by the Dist./County in terms of uniforms/dress/non-firefighting related apparel.

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    Actually, we do recieve a dept. t-shirt once a year.

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    In the way of uniforms and similar apparel, my company currently provides each member with:

    - short-sleeved uniform shirt, badge and brass
    - short-sleeved company t-shirt(s)
    - long-sleeved company t-shirt(s)
    - company job shirt
    - company polo shirt

    Members supply their own pants and shoes, in the appropriate styles and colors. In an average year, the average uniform shirt will be worn one time, at the annual Memorial Day parade, if at all. Chief officers may use theirs more often for events they attend in an official capacity, but not much more. The t-shirts and job shirts (in combination with Dickies and steel-toed work boots) get used all the time, as they are really our daily work uniform for drills, classes, and most other types of details. On the rare occasions we go to parades outside of our own community, we usually just go in company polos and jeans. It's comfy and, since we *ahem*, shall we say, "tend to not get along well with" parade judges, there's really no need to worry about a lack of uniforms.

    My only reservations about our whole way of dealing with uniforms revolve around what happens if & when somebody dies. It's inevitable, but we don't have a good plan, and we've been discussing the issue of uniforms, including class "A" uniforms, lately for that very reason.

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    We provide 1 dress uniform shirt, short sleeve, with patches and all appropriate brass (badge, collar brass, nametag). Pants, belts, dress shoes are provided by the member.

    A few of the chief officers had purchased their own dress uniform shirts in the past, but last year was the first time everyone was issued a uniform. Most guys will only wear them for the annual banquet, but some of us wear ours several times a year for public ed appearances, State Firemen's Convention, and other special events as appropriate.

    I think that even a volunteer organization should have uniforms, because we do participate in activities from time to time where you'd want to present a professional image. Obviously if you can't even afford decent turnout gear then uniforms are pretty low on your priority list (or not there at all), but if the department can afford it I feel they should do it.

    We're currently at odds with a neighboring department because after they went out and had all their members purchase their own dress uniforms, we turned around and bought uniforms for our members. They started having a hissy fit saying that we can't use public money for uniforms because that's not a necessary firefighting expense. They say they asked their auditor and he said you can't, but we asked our auditor and he said it's OK. So they're all crabby about it and they keep bringing it up, this one guy in particular I think if you're going to ask people to volunteer their time, gas money etc. for no compensation, it's kind of an insult to expect them to purchase a uniform too. It's the least we can do, isn't it?
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    DM ... so why would that neighboring department have any business messing in your department's business ????
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    Our department purchases Class A's about once a year for those who want them. The deal is that the member pays half and the department pays half. This helps limit it to members who plan on sticking around for a while, but doesn't make them pay the entire cost out of pocket.

    Other than that, we have to purchase our own shirts, job shirts etc.

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    Here we buy a member a jacket/blazer. pants, shirt, badges, nametags, hat. It is up to them to spring for the tie,socks, shoes/boots, belt. This is after 1 year of employment, if they are complete with probation.
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    We are issued our "duty" uniform which includes, shirts (long and short sleeve), pants, badges, name tag, belt, collar brass (if applicable). You are responsible for your own shoes/boots and socks. We currently do not have Class A uniforms, although it is something that is planned for within the next few years.

    Since we don't have the Class A's, we decided to get Ascots and the braided cords to go on our "duty" uniform. This is just something to dress it up a little bit for when we attend funerals and such. It was something that was a cheap way to dress up our uniforms a little bit. Most of us make sure we keep one pair of pants and one long sleeve shirt just for those situations that require the ascot/cord.
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    On my volunteer dept. we get a Class B work/drill uniform (minus boots) after completing the first four months of probation. We get a full Class A uniform (minus shoes) after completing probation.
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    My career FD pays for both Class A and B uniforms.

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    Originally posted by firenresq77
    We are issued our "duty" uniform which includes, shirts (long and short sleeve), pants, badges, name tag, belt, collar brass (if applicable).
    Do they make uniforms for Mini-Me? Or just buy the kid sizes?

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