First, OSHA (actually, ANSI) does not write standards for fire helmets. Thus there is no federal standard for combined head/eye protection, like on your fire helmet. OSHA has seperate requirements for head protection and eye protection, both of which are ANSI standards. If an employer determines his work environment requires head or eye protection, then it must meet ANSI standards. The voluntary NFPA standards require that the two be combined and that the eye protection (primary or secondary) be attached to the helmet. The helmet must also endure more than the ANSI tests for impact resistance.
Originally posted by FFFRED
I see. I'll have to look at the paper work again but I don't doubt what you are stating regarding the helmet as being OSHA compliant.
What then are OSHA's requirement's for eye protection? If a N6A is only NFPA compliant with NFPA eye protection (you can get a N6A with Bourkes, however it isn't NFPA compliant) then how can they sell a helmet and state it meets OSHA requirements? Does OSHA say nothing about eye protection? I can't imagine they don't.
However I will question your volly-buff nonsense about them "looking cool" or traditional.
They are on my helmet for one reason and one reason only...to protect my eyes and they do just fine at that. I don't go to work to be or look cool, I go to work to pay the bills and do my job and see that me and my brothers all go home at the end of the tour...period.
Are they the worst thing no...are they the best thing..no. But my pockets are filled and I don't need to be fumbling through goggles to get to my Linemans pliers to cut myself free from an entanglement...I don't need to be fumbing through my goggles to get to my personal rope(since the job stopped issuing them I have my own) to bail out when the sh*t hits the fan.
Lester Bourke of Brooklyn's Ladder 120 invented them after many different tries and I can assure you back then the helmet "traditionally" didn't have ANY eye protection. At the time(1960s-70s) L-120 was running more fires in a year than most of anyones depts sees in 10 years and just because it wasn't some consortium of helmet manufactures and desk jockey cheifs doesn't mean it is a decent & dependable accessory.
Wherever you clowns got the idea those Bourkes are for "looking cool" or "traditonal Looks" is way beyond me.