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    Default Hood- Over or Under?

    I don't intend to start another thread on whether or not you should wear a hood. My question is for those that do, do you put your mask on and then pull the hood over or do you pull the hood up and put the mask over? I was always taught to put my mask on and pull the hood over it. I have seen a few videos lately and most have the mask over the hood. I find that I always put it around my neck but occasionally forget to pull it over my mask after donning. Pulling the hood up first and then putting the mask on would eliminate that. My question is if this affects the seal of the mask? I realize that I can just do it for myself but wanted to hear from others.


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    The only "official" technique that I have seen during any type of training is the hood over the straps of the mask. I would think that with most masks it would be impossible to get a good seal if the hood was under the straps .. but I could be wrong.

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    only one way I know .....hood OVER the mask .......
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    Default seal

    I was always trained that you place the hood over the maskbecause it would not get a proper seal if it was under the hood. Makes sense to me, I know some guys claim that they need beards for the SCBA mask. But majority of us get a better seal if we are skin to mask.
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    Hood over the mask, only way to go.
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    I have seen videos of european firefighters (might have been British) with mask over hood. I don't know what technical differences there are between American hoods and BAs compared to their models, so it might work.

    It would be interesting to do a quantitative fit test both ways to see what difference it would make.

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    I've always been taught hood over mask and I don't plan to change that anytime soon.
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    I believe that my state's OSHA regulations say that nothing is to be between skin and the mask seal. I am not 100% sure but I believe it's true. That is why we are not allow to have a beard.

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    Lightbulb Hood over is the way

    Hood over the mask is the way to go. Due to potential for severe leakage using the mask over hood method, your air supply could be depleated at a faster rate.

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    Default Easy...

    First mask, then hood. Whew! Something we can all agree on.



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    I see alot videos/pics of the guys in New York (FDNY)at fires with hoods on and no mask (prior to entering the fire). It would appear that they put the mask on top of the hood. Is this true?

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    Default Re: Hood- Over or Under?

    Originally posted by cfdeng3
    I have seen a few videos lately and most have the mask over the hood.
    Most have the mask over the hood? I'd like to know what training videos are showing something else, because they'd be wrong, wrong, wrong. Hood over the mask, definintely.
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    I see alot videos/pics of the guys in New York (FDNY)at fires with hoods on and no mask (prior to entering the fire). It would appear that they put the mask on top of the hood. Is this true?
    well u put hood on first and pull down around the neck and then mask and from there u would then pull the hood up over the straps ............. thats why u see hoods on first .

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    hood over mask

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    Hood over mask
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    Originally posted by Weruj1
    only one way I know .....hood OVER the mask .......
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    Has anyone actually attempted a trial period and tested using the mask OVER the hood?

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    Originally posted by FFFRED
    Has anyone actually attempted a trial period and tested using the mask OVER the hood?

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    I really dont think that would work out so well.
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    hood over mask

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    Originally posted by FFFRED
    Has anyone actually attempted a trial period and tested using the mask OVER the hood?

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    probably not, but are you saying that putting your mask over the hood is a good idea?
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    we put the hood on first pulled down around neck. then mask is put on and hood pulled back up over mask. only the probies their first time put the mask on over the hood.
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