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    Default Rural, Suburban, Urban

    What determines if you are a rural, suburban, or urdan department? Last year we were a rural, this year the application says that we are a suburban. Population or area served has not changed.

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    Question I have the same question

    Our village has apopulation of 2200 people, no buildings over 3 stories, one gas station, no traffic lights, and is one square mile in size, and it's telling me that we are urban also.

    I want to clear this up before I submit the application.

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    Population density appears to be the main determinant. Somewhere around 1000+ people per square mile I believe is what the US Dept of Housing and Urban Development uses to determine urban vs suburban. I believe less than 400 or 500 per square mile is rural. Last year it took into account the percentages that you entered for the residential, commercial, and farmland/open area.

    Further proof I am a nerd. I looked for such answers.

    "Know thine enemy, or defeat will come for you."

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    You can 'dispute' your classification by contacting your Fire Program Specialist. They will take your info and forward it up the Chain of Command. Not sure if this late date will impede your chances...But give it a try. I had 2 depts. I worked with go that route.

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    It would seem that the problem is the size of your first in response area vs. population that is the problem. While your village may be only one square mile, you probably have a much larger area of first in responsibility. Try changing that number for a rural designation.

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    While it's not limited to town or city boundaries, you do need to include the size of the area that is your first due. But as strange as it may sound to some of us, there are many departments that only cover 1 square mile. The Village Fire Department in The Village, Texas, is surrounded completely by the City of Houston. But it is an independent city of 2 square miles. Ivyland, PA where stcommodore runs is even smaller than that. It all depends on who had the crayons when they were drawing borders.

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