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    At what price of gas will you either reduce or totally stop driving?
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    Don't even get me started.
    A sheik farts and gas prices go up another 20 cents.
    Can't wait to hear about the record profits of the oil companies.
    Oh yeah; and the oil shortage.
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    Speaking as someone who although does'nt drive all that often, (I cycle to work and live next to my station), probably pays a lot more for petrol that most folks on here (the other Brits excepted). I would have to say that not many people will reduce their use, or cut out altogether, driving vehicles.

    I live in country with a population of about 58 million people. At the last count, there were DOUBLE that many cars on the UK's roads. How many does that make running on U.S. roads?

    People driving cars is the ONLY way that petroleum companies make money and they know that there will always be a market for their product. There will always be people willing to pay whatever it takes to drive their car, as opposed to walking somewhere. There will always be cars, and there will always be people who want to drive them.

    A few years ago, road hauliers, (truckers), began to blockade fuel distribution depots in the UK, to try and prevent supplies being delivered to garages. It lasted about two weeks. Although they were protesting about the high cost of fuel, they really only got peoples backs up as they had to drive around to find a garage with stocks of fuel, rather than have people join their protest and force the government to reduce the taxation on fuel.

    When stocks of oil get lower, I'll still be riding my bike. (I can use synthetic products to lub the chain!!)
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    Mass transit is not available between my house and station. It means that I must drive if I want a paycheck. When not at work I still leave the house for recreational trips. Yea I drive one of those gas hog SUV's, but still must drive it if I do not want to become a homebody.

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    I gotat tell ya I am seriously looking at mass transit ...not sure when the busses run after midnight .....but it has got to be cheaper than gas ............
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    If it gets too high, I've got my old moped in the back of my garage.

    No insurance needed.
    $15 registration (good for 3 years)
    Aprox. 80 MPG
    And I can do all the work on it.
    Besides, I still enjoy riding it.

    Slightly over 1 mile to work and Ĺ mile to the station.

    Sure is cheaper than my car, but tends to make it hard to haul my tools to work and back.

    I filled up in the Detroit area on Saturday for $2.18. Today in the UP itís $2.43.

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    $2.34 Here in Ohio!

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    Here in RI the prices vary from station to station. Hess seems to be the cheapest at $2.12. Others go up into the $2.20's. I have no choice but to pay the high prices. Our choice of cars isn't the best for these times but you only live once. My wife drives an SUV and I have a Mustang GT.
    I heard on the radio yesterday that the US exports millions of barrells of oil every year and very little stays here. The reason was that our oil is so expensive that it is cheaper for us to import it from outside. Makes no sense to me.

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    $2.03 for Regular In South Jersey,Burlington County Woodland Township.

    BUT My company doesn't have to pay for fuel for the engines,chiefs trucks. We cover the New Lisbon Developmental Center and they said since we cover them for emergencies, they purchased 2 tanks for the firehouse(1 gasoline and 1 diesel) that are stationed in the center of the complex for our engines and chiefs trucks to fill up at at no charge since we protect them 24/7/365. We got very lucky on this or else we'd be paying alot for Diesel which is $2.38 Here

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    Paid $2.27 last night. Unfortunately I have few options...300 miles a week back and forth to work. With my job, get to work around 0715, might leave at 1630, or might leave at 1800, might have to go to another office during the day, never know. Buses are just not practical for me. Just glad I bought a small car a few years ago instead of the truck that I wanted!

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    Fortunately I live 3 miles from school. Since it was warmed up enough in the mornings, as long as weather is good I shall pedal my happy little butt to school on my bike. Like martinm says, I can do almost all of the maintenance myself, and it actually about 5 or 10 minutes quicker because I don't have to hunt for a parking space, I get to go right in front of the building. Plus I get a workout to help reduce the middle spread that has occurred since school started.

    This will totally pay off next year since almost all of my clinical rotations are local, I shouldn't have any problems.

    Our gas here in Durham is over $2.20 a gallon, but when I fill up I go to Sam's Club and pay about 8-10 cents less. Though I miss my GMC Sierra, with the gas prices as rediculous as they are now, I am glad I traded it in for my Subie Outback that gets more than twice what the truck did.
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    At almost f'ing $2.60/gal I'm looking into getting one of these bad boys:
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    This is part of an e-mail that was forwarded to me on Monday. It's part of one of those mail to 10 people...blah, blah,blah. Boycott the Saudis who are boycotting us...

    The numbers are interesting.


    > Thought it might be interesting for you to know which oil companies are
    > the best to buy gas from and which major companies import Middle Eastern
    > oil:
    >
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    > Shell............................. 205,742,000 barrels
    > Chevron/Texaco......... 144,332,000 barrels
    > Exxon/Mobil............... 130,082,000 barrels
    > Marathon/Speedway... 117,740,000 barrels
    > Amoco............................62,231,000 barrels
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    > If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18
    > BILLION!
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    > Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil:
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    > Citgo.......................0 barrels
    > Sunoco...................0 barrels
    > Conoco...................0 barrels
    > Sinclair....................0 barrels
    > BP/Phillips.! .............0 barrels
    > Hess........................0 barrels
    > ARC0.0 barrels
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    > All of this information is available from the Department of Energy and
    > each is required to state where they get their oil and how much they are
    > importing.
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    it is truly a sad day had to stop for gas on the way home as the idiot light came on, paid the $2.34/gal put in 20 bucks and didnt even make it half a tank.............just looked at the local bus route, and I can get to work with no problem but no busses run in my area after about 7 pm so that aint gonna jive when I get of @ 0'hundred. DANG ............
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    [QUOTE] > Citgo.......................0 barrels
    > Sunoco...................0 barrels
    > Conoco...................0 barrels
    > Sinclair....................0 barrels
    > BP/Phillips.! .............0 barrels
    > Hess........................0 barrels
    > ARC0.0 barrels
    [QUOTE]

    As far as I know, we don't have alot of these station here in north NJ. Are their prices cheaper then the ones that import?



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    I travel 35+ miles, each way, to work.

    Figure I go through about $1600 a year just in gas for work.

    Figure I'd add about $600 to $1000 monthly in my mortgage payment and property taxes to buy a house closer to Worcester.

    Nope, gas is still much cheaper than real estate.
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    Tanker, I know for a fact that Hess is one of the cheaper gas stations here on LI. Specifically by the Long Island Expressway.
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    more than likely 8 months from now we will be at this gain when it goes 3.00 a gallon. i remember paying .73 cents a gallon

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    As I look out the window at the Gulf station, regular is $2.04 per gallon, with someone else pumping it.
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    Are their prices cheaper then the ones that import?

    Nope.

    It's a free market folks, doesn't matter where you get it.

    U.S.
    2004:
    Total Net Imports: 11.851 Million Barrels per day
    From OPEC/Persian Gulf: 2.485 MBD 21% of imports
    From OPEC/Africa (mostly Nigeria): 1.578 MBD 13% of imports
    From OPEC/Venezuela: 1.521 MBD 13% of imports
    From Canada: 2.118 MBD 18% of imports
    From Mexico: 1.642 MDB 14% of imports
    And miscellaneous countries kick in another 20%.

    Now, the largest single supplier of oil to the U.S. is...the U.S. We produce about 40% of our oil domestically.

    So the Persian Gulf account for 20% of 60%, or about 12% of our overall consumption.
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    Iím no chemist butÖ

    What about the stations that sell gasoline\alcohol mix? Is that cheaper for them to produce than 100% gasoline? If so, why are they selling it for the same prices as pure gasoline?

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    Hmmm...

    15.5 gallon Keg of Bud...$60...$3.80/gallon...criminies, even Bud is more expensive than Gasoline

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    On a more serious note, this hits two of my other interests -- which are farms and roads.

    Alcohol still costs $$$ to make.
    -- Petroleum for the fertilizers & machinery to prepare, grow, and harvest
    -- Fuel to run the distallation plant

    Off of the top of my head, it takes 1 BTU equivelant of oil to make 3 BTU equivelant of alcohol. So you've already spent 1/3rd just to make it buying...oil. Now add in land, manpower, machinery...

    (I use BTUs since 1 gallon of Gasoline != 1 gallon of Alcohol in the amount of work it can do)
    (And for the geeks here will appreciate this...I've been programming too much today...for the rest, != mean doesn't equal)

    Biodiesel, using oils in plants as a substitute for Diesel fuel is a little more efficient. Still not great, and it would take growing a high-oil plant like Canola on every acre of reasonably arable land in the U.S. to meet our demands for Diesel fuel alone -- not counting Gasoline!

    I still support Biodiesel since, like drilling in ANWR, it's PART of a solution. We can grow fuel crops for Alcohol & Bio-diesel more efficiently (fuel wise) too -- although it might mean less efficient land & manpower use.

    Most stuff with petroleum prices is "marginal" in that a small increase in demand/reduction in supply at the limits like we are now (limitted refining capacity being the big one) creates big price swings.

    Bring on more refining capacity to fix that bottle neck, and bring on new sources of fuel -- drilling in Alaska, developing better technologies for the Atlantic seaboard of the U.S., bringing on enough fuel-crops to supplmant, say, 20% of our diesel needs. And start pushing up our fleet efficency -- i.e. more efficient cars, even a 5mpg increase would be dramatic.

    Together that could make a big impact in the pricing -- suddenly we're not all competeting to buy that last 1 gallon of oil before the other guy does.

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    And yes, I am kind of smiling I traded the F-150 in a couple years ago and bought a compact (Ranger) again!

    Doesn't mean I don't drool when I see a nice Diesel F-350 but couldn't afford both the truck and the gas bill...so I at least get to be glad I only have to fuel my Ranger
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    Rumour has it that gas just climbed to $1.02 per litre.

    1.000 US gallon equivalent to: 3.78540 litre [l] or roughly $3.90/US gal.

    Which equals: 3.895 CAD = 3.18816 USD
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