Thread: Black Smoke No Pope!
04-18-2005, 09:05 PM #1
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Black Smoke No Pope!
White Smoke they have a Pope.
Were there smoke ,there is fire.
Where there fire, you can firefighters.
That brings me to my question.Were can you find information about the vatican city fire department?
The CNN coverage is a 24/7 (LIVE CAM) covering a flue at the Vatican.
Bad time for a flue fire!
I found some information about the Vatican City.
The Vatican City Fire Brigade covers (108.63 acres)which makes it one of the smallest in the world??????
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04-19-2005, 08:55 AM #2
I visited the vatican fire department many years ago, but I think they didn’t change much.
It is not easy to meet them, they are matter of state secret, so you must know some priest high in Vatican hierarchy to have the permission. Otherwise, if you visit San Pietro basilica and have a firefighter skill and eye, you can find them here and there.
The department is very very small, they are very very few (once 6 or 8) with very very small and old equipment and vehicles. Some hand pumps, a little aerial ladder, a little rig with tools: remember that there the streets are very very small.
They work in 2 shifts, are trained from the national firefighter corps in Rome, and their main duty is to watch over all the vatican city and care for prevention. If something happens they call for reinforcement from Roma fire departments.
They work a lot (2 shifts of 12 hour), really, more than any other Italian firefighter, and know every corner, palace, church, transit and risk of their little jurisdiction.
Remember that città del vaticano is small but full of people from all over the world, and don’t miss terrorist risk – non only in these recent years, trust me -. There are a lot of places and risks to look at, they are non-stop patrolling the city.
So if you know what to look for, you can see them behind a column or near a sculpture. They don’t make ems, there are other organization for that.
I remember in their department a lot of ancient hand pump, golden and with the pope insignia.
Here is a recent pdf with picture about them, in Italian of course.
04-19-2005, 09:08 AM #3
They probably "blend in" much like the firefighters at Disney World. Talk about hard too find. But I used to work with two of the Disney FF's so I know some of how they move about the place. Service roads and entrance and exit doors that are hidden and of course the underground tunnel system. They dont have old equipment though, all state of the artFire Marshal/Safety Officer
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04-19-2005, 11:45 AM #4Originally posted by Dave1983
They dont have old equipment though, all state of the art
About equipment you now, Vaticano is very very traditional and frugal; and trusts more on men than on hardware
Anyway I read on a paper that in these days, or maybe with next pope, they could buy some new tools. And in the pics you can see a little but to some degree "modern" engine.
04-19-2005, 11:51 AM #5
draco9 - Very interesting, thanks for the pictures.
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04-19-2005, 01:01 PM #6
Very cool pictures indeed. thanks for posting.
04-20-2005, 02:10 PM #7
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Thanks draco for the information.
The pics are great.Talk about tradition and customs.The vatican city fire brigade has the history to backup their traditons.
I also found it interesting that the guards at the vatican city are swiss.Always a day late and a dollar short!
04-20-2005, 03:56 PM #8
Happy to be useful.
About Swiss Guards, they really are from Switzerland, that pays and take care from them. It is a "corps of Swiss-born soldiers responsible for the safety of the pope. They serve as personal escorts to the pontiff and as watchmen for Vatican City and the pontifical villa of Castel-Gandolfo."
They are there from 1503 called from pope Giulio II. They fought for pope often, expecially on 1527 when Rome was ransacked.
To be a swiss guard you must be young, male, catholic, high of stature and have good behaviour. The service lasts two years, but you may be selected for a longer career.
They now are 100 soldjers and 6 officials under the direct orders of Pope. If you go to Rome and need some info, ask them. They have a direct link with Pope.
Expecially now, as they speak original german .
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