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    Default Helmet Band-Read Before You Complain

    Yeah yeah yeah, people have asked questions about helmet bands. However I haven't found an answer to MY question. I do currently have a ban on my helmet. I wear a Cairns 1010. When I put a new shielf on the helmet, I moved the band under the plastic connection piece that mounts the shield to the helmet. Since then, I have noticed that my band often lifts off the helmet spilling my contents to the floor. Thankfully I haven't lost anything I keep up there, even though none of it adds up to a total of more than $6 or $7. My question is, does anyone have a way to keep the band secure on the helmet? Does anyone else have the same problem that I am having? It's getting to the point that I'm ready to take it off my helmet because anytime I want something out of the band the whole thing lifts up.
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    I hear you..

    I had a 1010 (now use either a New Yorker or Ben II) and had the same issue with the band lifting up.

    I simply got a small square of that commercial velcro (adhesive) and after peeling the backing off both sides placed it between the rubber band and the ribs of one of the rear panels. The compression of the band makes the adhesive stick really quite well. give it 12 hours, then you should find your chocks will stop bouncing off your shoulders in no time. (of course if your in deep and you see your banded gear take a dive, then seriously rethink your position )

    Hope this helps.

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    I never thought of that. My father is big into using velcro for a lot of things. He even got my a small thing of it when I came to school. I'll have to give it a try. It doesn't make the band too tight to fit a garrity lite and some chocks in there does it?
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    Nope, just stops it riding up

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    I suppose you know that if it is a Cairns helmet and you attach a non-Cairns accessory, they will not honor their warranty on the helmet.
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    I guess that's a choice he's willing to make. I have a 1010 and use a band/garrity as well.

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    I opted for one of those solid-rubber bungee cords (not the multi-colored and fabric covered ones)... it's a short one that hooks from one faceshield mount, behind the helmet dome, to the other faceshield mount.

    I think I read about it in FE a long time ago, and I've had no problems with it.

    I've found that it's more useful because you can quickly take it off and use it to hold panic hardware on a door open, lash things together, etc. It's cheap, and easy to replace.

    They're a little more durable too.
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    never had a problem when i used my N6A, since I switched to a Cairns 1000 (and even my PC American Classic), I have had the same problem. Never though to use velcro, i'll be giving it a try tonight.

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    I don't think my department would be happy about me adding screws to my helmet.
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    Wrap a peice of thin metal wire or a piece of a hanger around the back of the band and the other end around the d-loop. works great...
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    I dont carry the stuff on my lid like that .........I will do some checkin as some do have the set up you describe.
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    I have the same problems with a bullard UST helmet, never thought of the velcro. I might have to give that a try.

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    Not quite sure if this is a stupid question...
    But what the heck are the golf tees for?
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    Dont worry, just found out on the next thread i read
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    For all the life of me, i cant see a firefighter going to hell. At least not for very long. We would end up putting out all the fires and annoying the devil too much.

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    Originally posted by MetalMedic
    I suppose you know that if it is a Cairns helmet and you attach a non-Cairns accessory, they will not honor their warranty on the helmet.
    Go ahead chicken little. Did you know that if you put non Globe gloves in the pocket of your turnout gear, they won't honor the warranty? Just out of curiosity, have you ever had them deny a warranty claim because of a big rubber band?

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    Not picking a fight but so you're telling me if your department purchases helmet shields and puts them on the helmet they can deny all claims as well? I know that my department is replacing helmet shields to help with our accountability on fire scenes. The new face shields have each firefighter's accountability number on them, and possibly their last name.
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    A helmet is certified at the time of it's manufacture with the equipment installed on it at that time. Replacing parts with the exact same parts from the manufacturer will not void a warranty. Replacing parts with different parts may void a warranty claim and may also make the helmet non-compliant.

    A rubber band/strap will not void a warranty but gluing something to the helmet might, check with the manufacturer.

    A face shield is supposed to be clear and free from any obstructions for visibility, why would you put numbers and letters on it?
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    A face shield is supposed to be clear and free from any obstructions for visibility, why would you put numbers and letters on it?
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    Originally posted by Bones42
    A face shield is supposed to be clear and free from any obstructions for visibility, why would you put numbers and letters on it?
    I believe he was talking about a front piece and not eye protection.

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    Yeah, I found myself typing face and I thought I got rid of them all. Guess I forgot one. The front shields are coming from the company we ordered our new gear from. The gear is Globe but I don't know who will be manufacturing the front shield. I'm going to contact Cairn's and ask about both the shield and the rubber strap. I'll let you guys know what I find out.
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    I've walked right into the Carins factory in Clifton with my helmet and I forgot to remove the rubber innertube, chock and garitty light. I know a few others who have done the same thing as well.

    They didn't say anything about it. They took care of my problem and the issue never came up. Very helpful guys. I'm pretty sure if you attached a conway shield to a cairns helmet they aren't going to care.

    Some of you guys are really killing me with this Sh*t!

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    That's what I figured but I wanted to make sure. My main thought behind it was that I go to school in NYC and I know a few guys that are on the job and as many as I can remember meeting, I can see rubber straps on their helmets.
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