Is there anybody else who has notice that despite the miserable start by the Yankees, the Yankee detractors(myself included) have been conspicuous with their silence. Is it just me or is the rest of the baseball world afraid to wake up the sleeping bear.
I still hope they lose for Georges sake(George Steibrenner that is) but I think that it is the ultimate show of respect for the power of the Yankees that we have been silent. Up to now I guess.
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05-05-2005, 02:31 AM #1Forum Member
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Yankee Respect?
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05-05-2005, 02:54 AM #2
And to lose 2 straight...in front of the BOSS...Oh my!
ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. (AP) - The Boss didn't stick around for the
finish.
The New York Yankees tumbled to their lowest point in a decade
Wednesday night, losing their second straight to the last-place
Tampa Bay Devil Rays - this time 11-8 with owner George
Steinbrenner watching part of the game from his suite at Tropicana
Field.
"We're just not playing good. There's really nothing else you
can say," captain Derek Jeter said. "We're not doing the job,
bottom line."
The loss was the sixth in eight games for New York, which made
significant lineup changes the previous night to try to break out
of a rut. The Yankees are six games under .500 for the first time
since after games of July 19, 1995, when they were 34-40.
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Somebody's getting fired soon, probably Stottlemeyer.
But it is not his fault. He can only work with what he is given.
1. Kevin Brown experiment should be over. Goodbye.
2. Felix Rodriquez is terrible.
3. Tom Gordon and Mariano Riveira were the keys to last year's team. If they can't keep it together, this is going to be a long season.
4. Jared Wright will never pitch a game again.
5. George has got to start looking at what a pitcher does over the long run and not just one year before he plunks the big money on the table.
6. Johnson, Pavano and Mussina will be OK.
7. Wang is a pleasant surprise.
8. No need to panic just yet.
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05-05-2005, 02:28 PM #4
Perhaps the "Curse" has not been lifted, but rather simply Transferred to the Yankees?
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Couldn't happen to a nicer team.Originally posted by mcaldwell
Perhaps the "Curse" has not been lifted, but rather simply Transferred to the Yankees?
Go Red Sox!
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Yes, it's true, I saw it on the news this morning.Originally posted by mcaldwell
Perhaps the "Curse" has not been lifted, but rather simply Transferred to the Yankees?
Ever since the "A-Rod slap", the mighty Yankees don't seem so mighty anymore.
The Curse of The Bambino is now The Curse of The Fraud. Not even all of George's money can save them now!
BTW-- Kevin Brown is now a legend in Boston.
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Let's not forget that this is an aging team. Giambi isn't as powerful without the juice, Johnson while a strike out pitcher, gets hit hard sometimes. Kevin Brown is in his 19th ML season, Jaret Wright has a long history of injuries, Mussina is showing his age, Pavano has only had a couple of decent seasons out of 8 in MLB. The bullpen isn't much better. To be fair the Red Sox pitching is a BIG ??? . The dark horse so far is Balto. If they can support their suspect pitching they may win the division. White Sox are doing great so far, but we'll see in July.
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4 hit complete game shutout.Mussina is showing his age
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05-08-2005, 08:22 AM #9
It's very simple. When the Yankees started their Dynasty run in the late 90s, they were a team of home-grown and hungry talent. Jeter, Posada, Williams, Mariano, Soriano, El Duque, Mendoza, Pettitte, Spencer...
The hunger is gone, the farm is barren.
Unless George is willing to rebuild the minor league and wait out the contracts of his overpaid deadwood players like Giambi, Brown, et al. he will not see another run in his lifetime. Once these overpaid bench riders have expired their contracts, guys like Johnson, Williams, Mussina, will be collecting Social Security and no longer viable players.
A five year plan to re-grow a youthful team lead by some seasoned veterans will bring the Boss back into the fold. Get used to it George, your overpaid Yankees may not do as well in the American league as Bellamy Rd. did in the Derby. Slow out of the gate and unable to catch up.
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I would agree that the minor league system is not what it was. But remember this name---Eric Duncan. This kid, right now is a 3B. But look for them to switch him to 1B or 2B. This kid is the real deal. Of course they will probably trade him away, but wherever he lands, this kid is going to be a star.Originally posted by E229Lt
It's very simple. When the Yankees started their Dynasty run in the late 90s, they were a team of home-grown and hungry talent. Jeter, Posada, Williams, Mariano, Soriano, El Duque, Mendoza, Pettitte, Spencer...
The hunger is gone, the farm is barren.
Unless George is willing to rebuild the minor league and wait out the contracts of his overpaid deadwood players like Giambi, Brown, et al. he will not see another run in his lifetime. Once these overpaid bench riders have expired their contracts, guys like Johnson, Williams, Mussina, will be collecting Social Security and no longer viable players.
A five year plan to re-grow a youthful team lead by some seasoned veterans will bring the Boss back into the fold. Get used to it George, your overpaid Yankees may not do as well in the American league as Bellamy Rd. did in the Derby. Slow out of the gate and unable to catch up.
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To this day, one of my favorite baseall moments. What year was that...'78, '79?Originally posted by Conster74
Is anyone old enough to remember "Pine Tar George"
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Wow. 1983. I wonder just how fast he covered that distance between the dugout and home?
You need to put a caption on that photo...
Excuse me. Mr. Umpire. I am not certain that I agree with that call you just made.
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05-08-2005, 11:00 PM #14
Ah K.C.
The much hated team of my youth. George was a great one. His brother Ken was no slouch either. The Royals were always tough on my White Sox back in the day. Did I forget to mention that the White Sox are 24-7 ? I am not going to gloat since its the second week of May and the Sox havent even PLAYED in a World Series since 1959...But pitching is what wins and the Sox are playing some fine fine baseball right now.
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I've got George Brett's disease and it really is a pain in the *****.
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It's only the A's, but the second shutout in a row is huge. Brown pitched well, getting himself out of a bases loaded, no outs jam in the second. Gordon and Stuertz also pitched well. Long ball was in the house, too. A-Rod and Tino hit them. Posada crushed one deep into the upper deck.
It's only two games, but this could be the turning point.
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It's still early ... I am concerned but not worried .. have seen so many teams start off badly then turn it around. This is a veteren (I guess that's a PC term for old) that knows how to turn things around ..If they still are playing .400 ball in July ... now that's a different story.
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billy ball
Remember when they played the last 1/2 inning? Billy Martin challanged that Brett did not touch 2nd base. He had a second baseman pitching or somthing like that?
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Another stellar performance by the Yankee pitching staff. The Big Unit goes 8 strong, Mo mops up strong.
Still only the Mariners, still only May, Giambi still sucks, but it may be a corner turned.
Aside from Jeter, Tino is the foundation of this team.
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05-10-2005, 11:47 AM #20
i would also say gary sheffieldAside from Jeter, Tino is the foundation of this team******=================
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