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    Angry Give me one good reason to wear my helmet!OK about this!

    An Ewa Beach firefighter was knocked unconscious by a rock that was either thrown or shot at a fire truck returning from an alarm.

    The rock, about 3 inches in diameter, shattered a safety-glass window and struck firefighter Martin Smith's helmet with such force that it dented the headgear.

    "If he didn't have the helmet on, it might have killed him," fire Capt. Edward Cashman said.

    Smith was treated at St. Francis-West Hospital and later released. Police are investigating the incident as a second-degree assault but have no suspects.

    He and other fire officials had no explanation for the rock-throwing incident, which occurred as the fire truck was on Ft. Weaver Road while Smith's company was returning from a 2:10 a.m. alarm for a rubbish fire on Kilaha Street.

    Smith was seated on a side jump seat of the engine truck.

    "For it to shatter the safety glass and dent his helmet, it must have been shot out of something," Cashman said. "They didn't see anyone near the truck."

    Cashman said the rock was from a concrete slab.

    "It's a senseless act by an individual who obviously has no respect for public service," Clark said.

    "I think it's an isolated incident and in no way does it reflect the general community's attitude toward firefighters," he added.

    Big Island police have reported 16 rock-throwing incidents on Volcano Highway, including one that killed Darleen Martin after a 5-pound rock was thrown at her car in Puna.

    The rock which killed Martin was thrown from a passing car. No suspects have been arrested.

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    Why do people do s**t like this? I just thank God nobody was killed.
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    Messed up what happaned, but it should not be an endorsement to wear fire helmets while driving. The rear bill of the helmet is just waiting to snap your neck in a good wreck. A fire helmet is NOT a vehicle crash helmet.
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    Dennis

    That makes sense when you compare a fire helmet to a crash helmet.

    What does OSHA or NFPA say about wearing helmet during responses.

    Has there been any docmented cases of firefighters breaking their necks do to wearing a helmet during crashs.

    On the other hand wearing helmet could prevent injury from flying debis,glass,or low speed impact such as falling from a rear jump seat onto the roadway.All fire helmets are not fabricated or designed the same.

    Maybe its time for the fire service to look at headgear during resonses.If their is a standard against fire helmet use during responses please post the information.

    Thanks Coldfront
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    We had it happen to a guy here; and they didn't even crash. Just in a hard stop. Not a full fledge life killing neck break, but I think it required surgery.
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    Angry Here another good reason for headgear during responses.

    Firefighter shot on way to call (2002)
    A firefighter has been shot in the head with an airgun pellet while attending a routine call, police have revealed.
    Strathclyde Police said the firefighter was with a crew attending a "genuine assistance call" in Hamilton on Saturday evening when he was shot.

    The fire engine diverted to Hairmyres Hospital where the 44-year-old man was treated and kept in overnight for observation.

    Detective Constable Jim Conway said: "This could have had very serious consequences for both the firefighter and the member of the public they were attending to assist."

    The police said the incident happened at 1845 BST as the fire engine travelled along Highstonehall Road near its junction with Laighstonhall Road, in Hamilton.

    The crew diverted to the accident and emergency unit at Hairmyres in East Kilbride and the crewman was released from hospital on Sunday.

    Police said members of the fire crew were unable to describe the person responsible for the attack.

    Fire Brigades Union spokesman John McDonald said the incident has shocked everyone in the service.

    He said: "A firefighter was attempting to save another person's life and they were shot at by some mindless thug.
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    Smith was seated on a side jump seat of the engine truck.
    If you read it correctly, the guy wasn't driving, he was in a jump seat. Now if the guy was wearing a helmet back from a call, I can only imagine that it was a cab-over.

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