Thread: Pumper/Tanker Classifications
05-10-2005, 09:07 AM #1
What is the minimum water and pump required by YOUR county,parish,township for your apparatus to be classed as a tanker?
Ours is minimum of
2000 Gal Water Tank
1000 Ft 5" LDH
2 Side Jet Dumps, all must be 8-0Inch or bigger
1 Rear must be a 10-inch dump
Now, I think my county should class our new engine which holds 1,500 Gallons of water and pumps at 2,000GPM(classed as 1,500 but pumps at 2,000) a tanker, because they class a different company on the edge of our county that is a 1250GPM,1550 water as a tanker.
I think we should argue with our county about this, you think we should because we get dispatched for Tanker-Task-Forces and they always ask us to dump our water into a "nurse-pond".
What do you guys/girls think?
05-10-2005, 11:52 AM #2
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In our area the department decides how its apparatus will be classified. According to your specs our apparatus would qualify as nothing (not big enough pumps). But, I guess I don't really think it matters wether it's classified as a pumper or a tanker just as long as it does what it's designed to do.
05-10-2005, 12:02 PM #3
Sounds like someone wants to run on more mutual aid callsPiscataway Fire Dist #2
05-10-2005, 12:07 PM #4
Heh,well we already do but they say on the radio and I quote from the most recent TTA
4311:2923 pull up to the nurse pond and dump your water and head down and start the tanker shuttle
2923: 2923 Recieve.
Ok well having our truck being used for tanker shuttle huh were not classed as a tanker which is what I think my county needs to change.
05-10-2005, 01:39 PM #5
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Here any engine that carries 1000 gal. and a 1000gpm pump can be included in a Tanker Strike Team for use in a tanker shuttle.Chris Minick, P.E., Firefighter II
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05-10-2005, 02:41 PM #6
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According to NFPA, any pumper that carries 1000 gallons and has a dump, irregardless of pump size is a tanker-pumper.
Our department's has 3 tanker-pumpers that carry 1250 water with a 1000 gpm pump, a tanker-pumper that carries 3000 gallons with a 1000 gpm pump, and a 3000 gallon tanker-pumper with a 400 gpm pump.
We also hace a 6000 gallon tractor trailer nurse tanker.
Also there are many areas that run tankers without pumps at all. The area I came from in northen Vermont is an example as it runs primarily nurse tankers. I beleive NFPA classifies any vehicle with 1500 gallons or more and no pump as a tanker as well.
Most places I have been there is no formal "requirement" for any truck designation .. it is the department's call.
05-10-2005, 09:17 PM #7
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05-10-2005, 09:21 PM #8Originally posted by Weruj1
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05-10-2005, 09:26 PM #9
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Each department here makes its own classification for apparatus type. We have two pumper-tankers, with 2000 gallons of water. One of them has a 1750 gpm pump, the other 2000 gpm.
The only bad thing about calling them engines is that no one calls us for water supply. I guess it is because they don't say "Tanker" on the side...-Bozz
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05-10-2005, 11:03 PM #10
If you're being used in the Tanker Task Force as it is as an "Engine" that's dropping water, will having it say "Tanker" make that big of a difference?
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