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    Default camel backs for firefighters?

    has anyone ever heard of or uses a type of camel back system for a firefighter? obviously a firefighter could not use the system when they are masked up, but what about other jobs we do. one of the guys on my shift thought of it the other day, and we were wondering if anyone in the structurial firefighter industry uses one.

    Just a thought it might be a good idea or bad idea. we just wanted to hear you alls thoughts.


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    its great fo the normal basic calls, but if your in a fire its gonna suck, cause all that water is going to get hot as hell, probobly burn you as well.

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    i use a camel back during wildland stuff....dont think it would work for structure
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    I wouldn't be so quick to write it off. Every one including the military have integrated camelbacks into thier tactical gear now. The SCBA isn't as much of a problem as you might think, as some new gas masks have sealed ports for canteens or camel backs anyway.

    If the air cooled PPE that has been promoted recently is a hit, it would not be hard to add this next. Especially for glow worm suits.
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    Water + heat = expansion.

    Container expands beyond stress point.

    Broiled FF.

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    If your camelback, most probably located inside your PPE, boils, your ****ed anyway.
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    I'd never thought about using them until a guy showed up for an all-day extrication class in a shadeless junk yard on a sunny Arkansas day... And then I was jealous of him.

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    They are great idea until you go near fire. You have the problem of the water turning to steam and burning the firefighter, as well as the fact that they dont use particularly heat resistant hosing. The hose would melt from the heat rather easily. However, for all other duties they are excellent. And rescue, searches, training without fire,etc...
    Just dont use them in a fire.
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    Camel toes on the other hand should be encouraged.

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    A couple of the guys here wear them constantly during summer training and brush fires. They say they forget about them pretty quick, one guy even packs his with crushed ice during the summer. I've been tempted to get one myself. To protect the pack its always worn under the turn out gear, so you'll be dead long before the water turns to steam.

    In the meanwhile, it the water is slightly cool it will absorb quite a few BTU's from under your jacket, give you 5-10 minutes extra coolness.

    Even if its on the outside, I've never made it through a worker without getting wet, what's the difference? If the container melts it'll leak out onto your back.
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    All of our wildland packs have them, and I have started seeing them at extrication training.
    From a wildland stand point they are a great advanatage. You don't have to stop and get a drink, and in the long run peoplke drink more water.

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    Several people have said that the water could get hot and cause problems. Whether these problems be expansion, or steam burns or boiling, this is not a problem. Water boils at 212 degrees F. If it is 212 Degrees F under one's gear, the water boiling is the least of your worries. I do not think that this would EVER be a problem, at least not one worth worrying about. All in all, I would have to say I agree with 304.
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    Default Psssst....

    Some of us Firefighters run wildland calls and this is another
    great tool to have.

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    Default Re: Psssst....

    Originally posted by CALFFBOU
    Some of us Firefighters run wildland calls and this is another
    great tool to have.

    -Bou

    The camelback, or the mini-pumper truck?
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    Originally posted by firemanpat29
    Camel toes on the other hand should be encouraged.
    Defenitely should encourage more camel toe.

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    Alright, on a serious note, I want to know- If I show up to a call with a camel back on and start suiting up am I going to look like a total idiot? I mean am I going to get flak for it? It's definitly a great idea...I guess I'll just have to find out.

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    I would have to agree with EmtZeek, they work great on wildland fires. However if you need to be drinking water while using your SCBA, do you think it might be time for some rehab?


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    It would be interesting for them to make one specifically for firefighters as I know they need liquids often as they are working hard...maybe somehow incorporate one into a mask..that would be neat.

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    The water might be heavy hanging from your mask.
    There goes the neighborhood.

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    Originally posted by firemanpat29
    Camel toes on the other hand should be encouraged.

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