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    Hugging Ban Sparks Dispute at Ore. School

    Mon May 16, 1:22 PM ET

    BEND, Ore. - A 14-year-old girl received detention over a lingering hug she gave her boyfriend at school, infuriating her mother and putting school officials on the defensive.

    School officials said they had warned Cazz Altomare that lingering hugging was unacceptable, but she continued to disobey the rule when she received the detention earlier this year.

    Rules at Sky View Middle School in Bend permit "quick hello and goodbye hugs," but administrators said some students have been taking advantage of it.

    "It's not like we are the hug Nazis," Laurie Gould, spokeswoman for the Bend-La Pine School District, said Monday. "Kids hug, they hug hello and they hug goodbye, but if you take it farther, you make people uncomfortable."

    Cazz got detention after giving her boyfriend a protracted hug in the hallway at Sky View Middle School in Bend.

    Her mother, Leslee Swanson, was infuriated by the punishment. When she went to pick her daughter up from detention, she gave her a good, hard hug.

    "I'm trying to understand what's wrong with a hug," Swanson, 42, said in a story Sunday in The Bulletin of Bend. People should not "blindly accept these fundamental rights being taken away from them," she said.

    Gould said "usually kids don't get detention just for hugging."

    All middle schools in the Bend-La Pine district restrict hugging to some degree, as well as hand-holding and some other forms of physical affection.

    "Really, all we're trying to do is create an environment that's focused on learning, and learning proper manners is part of that," said Dave Haack, the principal of Cascade Middle School, also in Bend.

    Students only end up with detention after repeated warnings earlier this year, he said.

    Outside Pilot Butte Middle School on a recent lunch break, two seventh-grade girls said they disagreed with the policies.

    "I think we should be able to hold hands or hug at least," said Annie Wilson, 12. "Because it's not doing anything bad."

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    PDA was severly curtailed until High School in my school district. I want to know if this was a gropeing hug, if she was told to move along in the hall way and refused, or what the true circumstances were.
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    Holding hands and hugging IMO is accceptable but it depends on the circumstances and the situation. I remember in my school couples hugging and kissing in the hall ways started major 'traffic jams' and it was very hard to get to class...

    They said they permit "hello and goodbye" hugs. Sounds fine to me.

    But if they focus so much on hugging, what is happening behide the scenes? A detention for hugging, well, what punishment would the students receive for fighting?
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    Schools make rules. You follow them or are punished. Sounds very simple to me.
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    Now Noz, that was funny.

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    Who are these people to dictate what is and isn't a "lingering hug." IT should be expressly written out what constitutes what, and by all appearances, it isn't.

    Freaking schools are worried about making people uncomforatble. Oooh, someone who does not have a boyfriend might be uncomfortable because the girl who has one got a hug.

    Now if the girl continued to do so after being told, that I have a problem with, but you better spell out what is and is not acceptable to let everyone be on the same sheet of music here.

    Pretty freaking rediculous if you ask me. About as dumb as sending kids home from school because they wore a T-shirt with a picture of a firearm on it. Next thing you know, you won't be able to say "I love you" to someone.

    Might be satan taking over and we will have to call in Church Lady.
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    Why did they only warn the girl??? Sounds like the school is a discrminating pos.

    They are soo worried about people hugging, when people are cheating on tests, stealing things, and beating up other kids. THE TEACHERS OF THIS COUNTRY AND THE ADMINISTRATORS NEED TO LEARN HOW TO DO THEIR ******* JOB.
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    Originally posted by CaptainMikey
    THE TEACHERS OF THIS COUNTRY AND THE ADMINISTRATORS NEED TO LEARN HOW TO DO THEIR ******* JOB.


    Please...please just let me do my job...let me teach. The last thing in the world I wish to be is the Hug Police. Generally speaking, these things start because somebody filed a complaint regarding the said act...and BY GOD, THEY WANT ACTION OR HEADS WILL ROLL AROUND THIS PLACE!!! So, they got action.


    Mikey, do my job for a day...perhaps your perspective would change.
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    Originally posted by Conster74
    ) getting their stupid asses into the classroom
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    Default Re: Highschool School bans hugging. whats next?

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    School officials said they had warned Cazz Altomare that lingering hugging was unacceptable, but she continued to disobey the rule when she received the detention earlier this year.

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    Originally posted by CaptainMikey
    They are soo worried about people hugging, when people are cheating on tests, stealing things, and beating up other kids. THE TEACHERS OF THIS COUNTRY AND THE ADMINISTRATORS NEED TO LEARN HOW TO DO THEIR ******* JOB.
    How about the parents doing their jobs teaching their kids that cheating on tests, stealing things, and beating up other kids is unacceptable. Stop blaming the educators because other people's kids are unbridled and undisciplined. That "education" should be done at home. Teaching kids basic core values and human decency is the parent's job; not the school's Besides, everytime they try, psycho-mom's come into the schools wanting someone's head on a a stick for "disrespecting" their child.

    You couldn't pay me enough to be a teacher. Discipline in the classroom is something you just can't enforce without someone getting ****ed.

    Parents should be doing the discipline; teachers shouldn't have to. Let them do what they do best...teach.
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    Stayback, I was a teachers aide all 4 years of my highschool. So I know alittle about what it takes.

    The comment that I made was to the teachers of that school. Not to all of them in general.

    In my mind teachers are some of the best people on the face of the earth and are not paid enough for what they do.
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    Parents should be doing the discipline; teachers shouldn't have to.
    Teachers shouldnt have to but they do and if they dont then they wont have control in their classroom and the kids take advantage...so yes i do think teachers also should be doing their jobs telling kids how to act and disciplining them.


    They are soo worried about people hugging, when people are cheating on tests, stealing things, and beating up other kids.
    In my school it seems that the faculty and the administrators are more concernced about kids being late than they ongoing drug problem, maybe everyone just wont believe it because its oh the rich hunterdon county where no kids do anything wrong. i have gotten numerous detentions for being late which yes i know its breaking the rules but still i wish they would concentrate on the drugs that pass through this school. i remember sophomore year this girl asked i wanted to buy some coke and she pulled out the huge bag of it. i mean ive seen so many drugs go through here that the DEA would have a field day.



    everytime they try, psycho-mom's come into the schools wanting someone's head on a a stick for "disrespecting" their child.

    well what gives a teacher the right to make fun of a student or curse at them? nothing therefore they should be held accountable for what happens if a mother wants to go all psycho on them well then im sure they deserved it.
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    Also, My first few years of elementary school were hell on earth. I was harrased each day of the friggin year. While the teachers and administration sat and worried about little piddly things. So when I hear about a school that is diciplining on something so ridiculous as this it kind of pushes a few buttons.
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    *to complete my last sentence of my previous post*

    It pushes a few buttons when I hear of schools so concentrated on diciplining a issue so ridiculous as the one stated, when there is so many other issues that need to be and can be addressed.
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    Originally posted by CaptainMikey
    Also, My first few years of elementary school were hell on earth. I was harrased each day of the friggin year. While the teachers and administration sat and worried about little piddly things. So when I hear about a school that is diciplining on something so ridiculous as this it kind of pushes a few buttons.

    From the bottom of my heart, I am truly sorry this was your experience. Just as there are poor firefighters, there are poor teachers...but please don't lump us in the same boat.




    101truck - I have NEVER cursed at or "made fun of" a student...yet I have fielded complaints for managing my classroom in the past.
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    Stayback, Im not lumping anyone into a boat. I was just stating that when there is any news that relates to bogus or ridiculous diciplining I am kind of alittle biased on my opinions of it.


    I actualy think it is cool that you are able to handle 2 of the most hardest jobs know to man.

    By the way what grades do you teach?
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    Originally posted by Conster74
    That's very interesting that you say that parents should be the ones doing the disciplining when its the teachers who are the first ones who turn us in the first time little Johnny tells them we whupped him for breaking the neighbors' car windows because he and his friends were throwing rocks. Can't tell a kid how to behave in a non-hedonistic fashion without Child Protective and/or the police showing up at your door.


    Teachers are mandated to report abuse...ABUSE. I have no problem with parents paddling youngsters. When Johnny comes in with a shiner and says that Dad cracked him in the face for throwing rocks...do you wish for me to ignore it?
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