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    Hello,

    I currently have been appointed at my department to create a new runsheet for calls taken at our station. I was wondering if you guys could send me some e-mails with your run sheets attached so we can get a good idea of a good run sheet to fit our department needs.

    If you can help, anything and everything will help us out.

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    It is extremely important that any report you use include a narrative section. Check off forms such as NFIRS are fine for gathering and maintaining raw data. But to use the report as a true documentation of the incident (such as what you might need if you get sued), the report MUST include a section where the IC can document the conditions found, the actions taken and the conditions left.

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    Originally posted by GeorgeWendtCFI
    It is extremely important that any report you use include a narrative section. Check off forms such as NFIRS are fine for gathering and maintaining raw data. But to use the report as a true documentation of the incident (such as what you might need if you get sued), the report MUST include a section where the IC can document the conditions found, the actions taken and the conditions left.

    "If you didn't write it, you didn't do it".
    I'm with George on this one. Probably the most important thing you could do!
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    I didn't think he was talking about fire reports or run reports. I think he was looking for something to just log the run so they can keep a record of where, what and what did they used, etc.
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    I am currently in charge of the incident reporting system for my county. we currently use a computer based program called fire programs. The system is NFIRS compliant, it also has many other recourd keeping features for training, personnel and, such. it is pretty much firefighter proof and makes it easy for me to gather my monthly statistical reports. it is great if you can afford to go to a system that is computer based instead of paper based system.

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    Originally posted by nkfiree1
    it is pretty much firefighter proof system.

    LOL Nothing, my friend is "Firefighter Proof".
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    Originally posted by GeorgeWendtCFI
    It is extremely important that any report you use include a narrative section. Check off forms such as NFIRS are fine for gathering and maintaining raw data. But to use the report as a true documentation of the incident (such as what you might need if you get sued), the report MUST include a section where the IC can document the conditions found, the actions taken and the conditions left.

    "If you didn't write it, you didn't do it".
    Amen George;

    This will make or break you in the courtroom. A good narrative is your documentation of the incident. If it is not in your report it did not happen!!!
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    Does this poster want medical or fire reports or both ?
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    nk, can you explain nfirs compliant. I'd be interested in some names of software to check out for incident reports. We have been considering getting away from the paper method.

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    I have a good sample I will send along.
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    Default alot of places use this ..............it aint the best but it works

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    by NIFIRS compliant i mean that the system will allow you to upload the reports directly to NIFIRS or VIFIRS (Virginia). we looked at many different programs and found that for us Fireprograms software was the best fit. The program is called Fireprograms it is made by a company called Arrakis software. we also looked a program called firehouse (don't know the company name), that program was not a user friendly.

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    George, very good point about the narrative portion. We currently do not have a narrative portion, which I see is very important.
    I'll have to bring this up tomorrow night.

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    I would send you something, but all of our stuff is on computer. Check NFPA. One of the sections (921 I think) has some real good forms for fire invest that can also be used for general call information. I think I have some, let me look around.
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    Consider that if you aren't keeping your records on a computer, the information you have is (for practical purposes) lost.

    It might be useful to determine how many times you've responded to automatic alarms, or to a particular address, or if a particular landlord or tenant is generating more than their share of fires. If your records are only on paper, you COULD tally this information every time you needed a question answered, but a simple computer search gives you quick, painless, and useful results. Any NFIRS software will do this reasonably well.

    On the scene you really just need a sheet to take field notes on, but make sure that sheet has blanks(reminders)for all the information you want to store in the computer.

    If you do wind up with software, be sure to keep a hardcopy of each run on file and MAKE BACKUPS!
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    Originally posted by ullrichk
    Consider that if you aren't keeping your records on a computer, the information you have is (for practical purposes) lost.

    It might be useful to determine how many times you've responded to automatic alarms, or to a particular address, or if a particular landlord or tenant is generating more than their share of fires. If your records are only on paper, you COULD tally this information every time you needed a question answered, but a simple computer search gives you quick, painless, and useful results. Any NFIRS software will do this reasonably well.

    On the scene you really just need a sheet to take field notes on, but make sure that sheet has blanks(reminders)for all the information you want to store in the computer.

    If you do wind up with software, be sure to keep a hardcopy of each run on file and MAKE BACKUPS!
    Consider that if you ARE keeping your records on a computer, the information you have is (for all practical purposes) lost...

    Unless you have good backup procedures, security procedures and access restrictions.

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    Thanks,I will check those suggestions, and if anyone has field report sheets that can be emailed, send to tkw@sacoriver.net . It's good to see a few different ideas now and then, and it won't take much to better what we currently use.

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    go to your profile and find where you can allow PM's..dont need a paid subscription ....
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    That was easy, why didn't eye think of it?
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